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joncheong
17-06-2012, 09:00 PM
To all baccarat lovers.... This thread is started to share tips for the game... It's one of the most popular games in a casino(MBS and RWS)...

To start of with, mathematically, it's no use recording past results as each event does not depend on past results... But time and again experience will tell you that sometimes the banker or player is stronger ...

Curious to know most of you follow the pattern or bet against the flow thinking that results will level out evenly ..

shiokpleasure
17-06-2012, 09:53 PM
While logically speaking, what you said is true. But the way to play baccarat is to catch the dragon.

But baccarat players will know, it's useless to go against the flow.

Put it simply, when a streak happens and you chose not to follow, you'll be out of the game v fast.

I do my recordings diligently. If you don't do it, i suggest you either play craps or 大小. At least that is more randomised.

shiokpleasure
17-06-2012, 10:09 PM
The thing about streaks is this.

It can be alternate streaks

P b p b p b

Or double alternate

p p b b p p b b

Or dragon

b b p p p p p p p p b b b

Only when u record then u can see any of the above. If not, you're just gonna be mind fucked. Usually people only go for dragon, failing to see the other 2 patterns.

Triplets are the worse. Cause it's neither here nor there.

small1
18-06-2012, 02:08 PM
i used to b a croupier at mbs paiza. lots of china man go there gamble. they look at all the roads. the main road aka the normal pple see is zhu lu. which is the bigger screen on bottom left. top rite is da lu. aka big rd. centre is xiao lu. aka small rd. bottom rite is ga zua lor. when its real messy durin the middle of the shoe they prefer lookin at the other 3 rds which i said on the rite. after tt they will go back to zhulu when there is a dragon or stats start to b more constant. but if u really duno how to c juz follow those china players/ they r actually quite consistant.

the style above is not popular among locals coz not many know how to read.

regular local players manly use 4 types of format.

first format is follow the dragon/ which is gd for small timers and those who r real patient. coz u might not get a dragon for 3 hrs and once come u might not b able to catch on time.

2nd format juz folo the last result. i.e, last result comes out banker. u bet banker again. if player juz turn back to player. but b 3 rd u got to double up if u lose the 1st and second bet. once win u have to go back to original bet again. unless the rd is dragon sidesways instead of downwards, u shld b able to win small but with more cash.

3rd format is bet all the way banker. double on ur losses. unless the dragon for player comes u have to leave the table. y bet on banker? becoz chances of banker not drawin a card when its high value is bigger/ player must draw at 6 in order not to draw. even if player is 6 or 7, if banker is below 6 they still get 1 last chance. tts y banker commission is 5%.

4th and last is hitchin ride on the wave. walk ard tables. c one dragon bet 1-2. dun bet too many coz u dunno when its gonna break. pls note. try not to open ur 1 side or bet bigger than the player juz to c cards. if u win its ok. lose u will get alot of angry pple behind u. juz let the same guy/gal continue with wat he is doin.

of coz there is no such thing as garantee win method. if there is casino close down. lol. above all is juz for ref and my study as a croupier and gambler. in short. dun bet blindly. b versital and try usin each method.

shiokpleasure
18-06-2012, 06:30 PM
Problem with double up is there is a table limit. Mbs no table limit?

That's y u can only double up for so many times.

Like i said, the dragon will kill if follow the double up rule.

shiokpleasure
18-06-2012, 06:35 PM
Sometimes u got to follow yr guts.

There was a time when i always played baccarat for many hours each day. Until i think i started hallucinating or the devil was talking to me.

But the thing is, a few times i heard 'bet on tie' and true enough it came out.

Anyway, don't ignore the ties. If a streak came up after a triplet, just follow the one before.

Example

p p p t > play p
If a b came up on 5th play, then consider the streak broken.

joncheong
19-06-2012, 10:46 PM
So good bet is to follow the flow? I guess too also... But sometimes i bet against the dragon cos it has to stop at some point... Though u will get lots of people looking at you angrily if it happens hah

On a side note, it's good to avoid those fierce looking croupiers... Those with 'sha qi' like a shark waiting to kill you

shiokpleasure
19-06-2012, 10:57 PM
Of course u have to bet against it. But this game is not about catching the against.flow. But if u choose to play in that manner, it's up to you.

joncheong
19-06-2012, 11:28 PM
Of course u have to bet against it. But this game is not about catching the against.flow. But if u choose to play in that manner, it's up to you.

Haha yes i agree it's a game w the flow.. If u observe , whether in high limit area or normal tables, those win damn alot of chips one go with the flow or aka dragon

DylanC
23-06-2012, 07:09 PM
Play the game for entertainment, not for winning money. That way won't lose much and winning is a bonus.

shiokpleasure
23-06-2012, 11:34 PM
Play the game for entertainment, not for winning money. That way won't lose much and winning is a bonus.

i recommend you play jackpot or pokies instead. it's more entertaining and much cheaper. bacarrat minimum maybe $10 per bet. jackpot can go for 20 cents per press.

with all the sounds and side games, it's really more fun. :D

joncheong
02-07-2012, 11:05 PM
Went rws today and saw the biggest crowd ever around a table...

Opened player dunno how many times and the croupier kept losing money...

The Sup face black black... Machiam the money lost is hers like that lolzzzz

shiokpleasure
02-07-2012, 11:33 PM
Went rws today and saw the biggest crowd ever around a table...

Opened player dunno how many times and the croupier kept losing money...

The Sup face black black... Machiam the money lost is hers like that lolzzzz

wa, if the coupier always kenna makan, v soon will change people one.

i ever kerna before.

justl00king
09-07-2012, 01:28 AM
Opened player dunno how many times and the croupier kept losing money...

Longest dragon streak I ever saw is 23. :)

ArmyOfDarkness
09-07-2012, 03:50 PM
Longest dragon streak I ever saw is 23. :)

23 is so so long. $100 also win 2.3k u got follow?

joncheong
09-07-2012, 11:47 PM
Longest dragon streak I ever saw is 23. :)

this is indeed very long, me no balls to follow .... i always have that stupid mentality that it will happen opposite which is very wrong in the game of baccarat

BabyCucumber
09-07-2012, 11:57 PM
Ooo interesting information..

justl00king
10-07-2012, 12:46 AM
23 is so so long. $100 also win 2.3k u got follow?Nope, when I saw it already 15. I just happen to walk past that table and saw a HUGE crowd gathered. Even want to place bet also quite difficult or else I would.

One of the guys pointed to me this one player who placed 7K bet each round starting from third game of streak. Never increase or decrease bet each round, won above 100K just from this streak.

He was at the right place, at the right time. ;)

this is indeed very long, me no balls to follow .... i always have that stupid mentality that it will happen opposite which is very wrong in the game of baccaratThere are players like that, who will try to chop the streak by betting opposite.

For me I will follow, just need to clear one win and level bet all the way after that.

shiokpleasure
11-07-2012, 11:48 PM
Nope, when I saw it already 15. I just happen to walk past that table and saw a HUGE crowd gathered. Even want to place bet also quite difficult or else I would.

One of the guys pointed to me this one player who placed 7K bet each round starting from third game of streak. Never increase or decrease bet each round, won above 100K just from this streak.

He was at the right place, at the right time. ;)

There are players like that, who will try to chop the streak by betting opposite.

For me I will follow, just need to clear one win and level bet all the way after that.


that is the beauty of this game. the more you try to defy it, the more you lose.

if there is really a huge crowd, it means everyone is damn high liao. i think they would have changed the croupier after the streak.

damn, betting $7k on a table. you go to VIP room ah?

miniboy
12-07-2012, 01:56 AM
Longest dragon streak I ever saw is 23. :)

that was a yr and 3 months ago at mbs right ?

miniboy
12-07-2012, 01:57 AM
i used to b a croupier at mbs paiza.

so what are u doing now ?

justl00king
12-07-2012, 05:20 PM
damn, betting $7k on a table. you go to VIP room ah?Nope, at the common casino area. Few thousand bets actually quite common, dragon come big players sure whack.

VIP room I have seen players betting 150K a hand, table got close to 3million in chips! :eek:

that was a yr and 3 months ago at mbs right ?How you know, you were there too? ;)

miniboy
13-07-2012, 10:42 AM
How you know, you were there too? ;)

:D the fellow who won 23 in a row

shiokpleasure
13-07-2012, 12:46 PM
:D the fellow who won 23 in a row

Wa! U won 23 times. That night can sleep in mbs liao. What was yr stake?

justl00king
13-07-2012, 07:52 PM
:D the fellow who won 23 in a rowSo you that fellow betting high stakes?

High roller spotted! :eek: :D

joncheong
20-07-2012, 01:12 AM
Today rws player wind.... Many tables kept player player player

justl00king
24-07-2012, 04:44 PM
Today rws player wind.... Many tables kept player player player

This is good, just keep betting on player and no need to pay any banker tax! :p

joncheong
26-07-2012, 01:39 AM
this week i saw an ah pek .... everytime he won, he shouted sibei song....sibei song....i laugh until stomach ache cos he said in a very cute funny accent....won quite a lot...stacks of chips on the table (RWS common gaming area)

Chris888
26-07-2012, 12:09 PM
Longest dragon streak I ever saw is 23. :)

ya at mbs this news spread damn far lol :D

justl00king
16-09-2012, 02:36 AM
this week i saw an ah pek .... everytime he won, he shouted sibei song....sibei song....i laugh until stomach ache cos he said in a very cute funny accent....won quite a lot...stacks of chips on the table (RWS common gaming area)Many funny scenes there. I saw one guy praying to dealer to hope for a win! :eek: :p

lfc78
15-10-2012, 02:30 AM
Well I only play baccarat.. Used to go rws but stop since. Won 30k plus initially but lost back and top up 30k own money haha. Need to have strong disipline. Greed cause all to fall. No matter how much one wins, if still continue will loise back to house. Just play for fun if u got extra cash for entertainment.

justl00king
30-10-2012, 01:22 AM
Just play for fun if u got extra cash for entertainment.Wise words.

Go there win some coffee money, then chiobu watching and enjoy free drinks. :cool:

joncheong
29-12-2012, 05:08 PM
Any idea if rws will be extremely crowded during sundays? Never been there on a sunday... Will it be crowded until no place for those 200 or 100 baccarat tables where players can squeeze cards?

justl00king
30-01-2013, 04:27 PM
Any idea if rws will be extremely crowded during sundays? Never been there on a sunday... Will it be crowded until no place for those 200 or 100 baccarat tables where players can squeeze cards?Was there few days ago in the afternoon, packed with punters but mostly tourist I guess.

Weekends should be crowded and since now new year round the corner, should be real busy during this period! :)

justl00king
16-04-2013, 01:55 PM
Baccarat lovers, how the going at Rws? :D

lfc78
20-04-2013, 05:32 AM
Hi started going 3 weeks ago again. Orchid room face up tables ok.
Won 54k first week. Second week lost back 30k. This week won back 16k.
Time to relax first. Got 1 day driver for bankers dragon streak for 2 tables. Near the refreshment.

justl00king
21-04-2013, 03:00 PM
Hi started going 3 weeks ago again. Orchid room face up tables ok.
Won 54k first week. Second week lost back 30k. This week won back 16k.
.Bro, good to see you winning.

What's your secret? ;):p:D

lfc78
21-04-2013, 10:31 PM
Bro, actually no secret. Usually I look at the big road. The rest, small, cockroach etc only when the big road becomes messy or not nice. BBPPBBPP
BPBPBP etc. I usually stake 300 for my first hand. Kenna, 500. Then slowly if got win, I will stake 1k. I can lose 9k drawing 3 atm cards. Need to wait for 12am before drawing again. Then with 1k fight back 16k. Need to double up when dragon or certain pattern spotted. Else, with similar stakes. Difficult to recoup. Of cos, u can lose big too. I also encounter. So after the lessons long ago, I put my money in fixed d. Only balance some to play. Lol

justl00king
21-04-2013, 11:38 PM
So after the lessons long ago, I put my money in fixed d. Only balance some to play. LolBro, thanks for sharing.

I am also a bac player, as for big win and losses been there done that. ;)

You sound like a really prudent player and sensible with your funds.

Seen and heard too many sad stories, discipline is key to longevity of a punter.

Good for you, hope you continue to huat and enjoy the game! :D

lfc78
22-04-2013, 12:04 AM
Nah, I only preach but most times I can't lun one. Lol. Key is once u win money, dun be afraid to spend first. Buy some things or spend to pamper urself. May u win big big at rws too. Just brought my family to see the sea aquarium at rws. Use the points. Hope to see u 1 day at rws

justl00king
22-04-2013, 12:05 PM
Nah, I only preach but most times I can't lun one. Lol. Key is once u win money, dun be afraid to spend first. Buy some things or spend to pamper urself. May u win big big at rws too.Hope to see u 1 day at rwsThanks bro.

How the sea aquarium thing, fun? I no kids only can bring mei mei to see fishes. :D

I also pay lots of school fees already, have since learn to control but sometimes also cannot lun, lol.:p

Now I divest my funds into stocks, property and fd, also staying liquid as well in case anything good crops up. :)

You never know, we may have crossed paths before inside casino and could have even chatted. ;)

Best of luck and big wins!!!

lfc78
23-04-2013, 03:31 AM
8 hours win 2'k

lfc78
03-05-2013, 01:09 AM
How's the going bro? Still going RWS?

josh13232
03-05-2013, 05:24 AM
How's the going bro? Still going RWS?

I more preferred mbs honestly .. Last month win 27k rest till now also no going back haha

justl00king
03-05-2013, 07:35 AM
How's the going bro? Still going RWS?Last month overall is up, good luck bro! ;)

I more preferred mbs honestly .. Last month win 27k rest till now also no going back hahaBetter luck at mbs? :cool:

This is smart play, don't give them chance to get back your winnings. Maybe go for a nice holiday?

Good luck!