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cock21
12-07-2002, 05:50 PM
Hi all, just wondering anyone has tried these pills before, a nd whether or not they work as claimed.http://www.pillsexpert.com/index2.html
Usually, I'm damn sceptical about such things, but it seems that this website is actually offering a 100% guarantee.

roadster
12-07-2002, 06:34 PM
What's the point of a refund of any amount when you end up with a ku-ku-chiau that only nursey kids would be proud to show-off?

cock21
15-07-2002, 10:09 AM
Hey, how come no one can give any constructive replies to my query. YOu mean no one here has ever tried any of these penile enlargement pills? Ok, I shall be guinea pig and buy some, then post the results here!!

Ijigoro_MiLK2
15-07-2002, 11:54 AM
sure sure...go ahead...if it works...tell us all, if not, no problem, the media will still tell us all bout this guy that developed liver problem from taking penis enlargement pills......

by the way, why do u need penis enlargement pills? not long enuff?? just a thought.....

goondu2002
30-07-2002, 04:11 PM
I want to know any brother here has any successful penis enlargement whether by pills or suction or weight lifting. Can someone share on their experience?

I have a few FAQ for the brother who had done it:-

1. How long before you can see results?
2. Does the result last after your stop?
3. Does a increase in penis size means softer penise?
4. Is the sensation of the penis reduced?
5. How many method has you tried?
6. What was the size increase for method used?

Please don't be shy.

Swinger
03-08-2002, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by angjohnhwang
I have try taking penis pills with great results....
check out what I have to say at my website

http://www.deep.at/moreman

btw, I am from Singapore.

Are you sure your pills work? The first company to market enlargement pills, longtitude, has since been shut down, and investigations into fraud have begun. They have openly admitted that their pills have no medical benefits.

Also, the ingredients stated may increase libido in men, but they do not contribute to enlargement at all. Even by forcing more blood into the penis, enlargement is temporary; once the effects wear off, you return to your normal size.

There is no independent analysis conducted on the effectiveness of such pills, or any pills. Anyway, the only possible way for enlargement to occur if if testosterone levels are elevated, and the body responds accordingly. That's how our penises grow from that half inch wonder when we're babies to what we have now, and that process is called puberty.

If there are any drugs like this, they would be pharmaceutical and controlled, not sold by mail order. If you're telling me you're buying direct, therefore bypassing singapore regulations, then you should be able to tell me succinctly what FAA lists it as.


Use common sense please, if anyone intends to buy. Not that there aren't other ways around, but risks are involved.

P.S. Considering that you're selling the product, yours is hardly an unbiased opinion.

cock21
03-08-2002, 04:13 PM
Yo bro, thanx for your very frank, impartial view of this whole debacle. I too have my doubts about the efficacy of these pills, but just curious as to why the company involved would be so bold as to give a money-back guarantee. Marketing gimmicks aside, if the product hasn't the slightest merit in improving penile length, then this guarantee is a sure-fire way to bankruptcy.



Originally posted by Swinger


Are you sure your pills work? The first company to market enlargement pills, longtitude, has since been shut down, and investigations into fraud have begun. They have openly admitted that their pills have no medical benefits.

Also, the ingredients stated may increase libido in men, but they do not contribute to enlargement at all. Even by forcing more blood into the penis, enlargement is temporary; once the effects wear off, you return to your normal size.

There is no independent analysis conducted on the effectiveness of such pills, or any pills. Anyway, the only possible way for enlargement to occur if if testosterone levels are elevated, and the body responds accordingly. That's how our penises grow from that half inch wonder when we're babies to what we have now, and that process is called puberty.

If there are any drugs like this, they would be pharmaceutical and controlled, not sold by mail order. If you're telling me you're buying direct, therefore bypassing singapore regulations, then you should be able to tell me succinctly what FAA lists it as.


Use common sense please, if anyone intends to buy. Not that there aren't other ways around, but risks are involved.

P.S. Considering that you're selling the product, yours is hardly an unbiased opinion.

Swinger
03-08-2002, 05:48 PM
Originally posted by cock21
Yo bro, thanx for your very frank, impartial view of this whole debacle. I too have my doubts about the efficacy of these pills, but just curious as to why the company involved would be so bold as to give a money-back guarantee. Marketing gimmicks aside, if the product hasn't the slightest merit in improving penile length, then this guarantee is a sure-fire way to bankruptcy.





you might want to read that "money back guarantee" carefully. It may be void under certain conditions, which makes the scheme useless.

You might notice alot of companies using "money back guarantees" as a sales pitch.

roystonlau_sg
03-08-2002, 07:51 PM
1st of all when you buy stuffs from internet , check with the seller the money back gaurantee is from day of receiving the items or day of credit card transaction.........

I have actually order a lot of stuffs and get $$$ back!!!

eg 1.
I have order a phemones(forgot spelling) perfume value at US$49.90 which says can help to attract female........ actually it sorts of work for me.....dun know whether it is because after using it....i am physco to become more confident???......anyway the item gives 45 days $ back garantee from day of receiving the item, after 45 days of using it. I pour the remaining of the phemones perfume into a empty container and send the empty original bottle back for refund..........hahaha and I got back the money and free use of the perfume. lost only US$5 for the shipping cost to singapore and S$6 to post back the empty bottle........

eg 2.
I order an Acne product.........and also refund back for $$$ this product even refund the shipping cost!!!! the Acne product do actually help to control my Acne..........

eg 3.
I have actually order the penis pills from the ABION MEDIC in 2000. That was when I was in the army and 1 of my man, he no credit card so he ask me to order for him........on seeing the website, I also decide to order and try, so we order 4 bottles because we want to try 2 months........the gaurantee is also start from the day we receive the items so we have completely 60 days to try it..........anyway this is our story, me and my friend atually gain some slight results with my friend claming he gain 1.5cm when erected. He also say he can make love with her gf longer.....as for me I only gain about 1 cm a little bit more during the 2 months period....at that time i still a virgin....cannot comment about making love....but when I DIY, can definitely shoot more powerful and can DIY 4 times in 1 hr with help of porno vcds of course!!!!
Very strange about the transaction was that, about 1 month after I receive the items, I receive another 4 bottles.......at that time I panick because I did not order them but get another 4 bottles....so I check my bank/credit card and there was no extra $$$ deducted......so I heckcare........(i also never tell my man)
After the 60 days, we actually decide to email back to them to ask for full refund even though it work. That was on a bookoutday, sat afternoon, when I email back to them to say that I will be sending back the 4 empty bottles for refund. Until sunday nite I have not receive any email reply from the seller.........so I did not send the empty bottles back yet.........the next week when I book out from camp and I open my email accout....guess wat????...I receive an email to say that they have refund the money including the shipping cost!!!!! to my account and I check my account....it;s true...it's damn true the money is in!!! so in the end I also heckcare about it, I did not send back the 4 empty bottles, I gain another 4 bottles(may be a mistake by them, or is it they purposely send to me so that i will not request for refund??? I dun noe).......and I gain 1++cm........the other 4 bottles I sold to one of the brother in the old sammyboy forum in 2000 for $250.
Never heard of his results......I only met him at an mrt station and passed to him(that guy veri funny wear black sunglasses and wear black cap...look here look there as if we transact drugs...hahaha...)
However one side effect of this thing which I notice may be more pimples.....(could also be due to the 2 months period, happen to be siong...more outfield...camo face...SOC, IPPT...i dun noe)

So i say brothers got $$$$ back guarantee no scare one.....sure get $$ back....everytime I order thing from internet i always ask wat the gaurantee means...then i buy oredi, work no work i always empty the bottle to another container and send back for refund........hahaha....I very bad is it???




Originally posted by Swinger


you might want to read that "money back guarantee" carefully. It may be void under certain conditions, which makes the scheme useless.

You might notice alot of companies using "money back guarantees" as a sales pitch.

cock21
04-08-2002, 02:02 AM
Wah brother, YOU THE MAN!!! Everything also free.......by right the system usually fucks you up, but it seems you've turned the tables and fucked the system up!! Well done, I must say!!! (Though not that I condone such dishonest behaviour..hehe!!)
If only those Geylang $150 cat also got money-back guarantee..... after you fuck shiok shiok, tell the OKT the girl's service screwed up, then get full refund, i.e FREE FUCK, and a good free fuck at that!! Cheers!! :cool:

justl00king
04-08-2002, 03:48 AM
Originally posted by Swinger


you might want to read that "money back guarantee" carefully. It may be void under certain conditions, which makes the scheme useless.

You might notice alot of companies using "money back guarantees" as a sales pitch. better dont play play. wait kenna side effect money back also no use.

LeMoN
08-08-2002, 02:32 PM
Originally posted by cock21
Wah brother, YOU THE MAN!!! Everything also free.......by right the system usually fucks you up, but it seems you've turned the tables and fucked the system up!! Well done, I must say!!! (Though not that I condone such dishonest behaviour..hehe!!)
If only those Geylang $150 cat also got money-back guarantee..... after you fuck shiok shiok, tell the OKT the girl's service screwed up, then get full refund, i.e FREE FUCK, and a good free fuck at that!! Cheers!! :cool:

This is a scam la.
1) there's no more angjohnhwang.
2) suddenly there's a roystonlau_sg who joined on 3rd Aug and make his 1st post stating so many testimonies on money back guarantee.
3) I'm sure after u make a purchase from this website, u wont even be getting any products nevertheless money back guarantee.
So suspicious ....

roystonlau_sg
08-08-2002, 02:45 PM
hahaha....scam.........u very imaginative......

yes, i register and post once and this my 2nd post....

y???? because i dun 1 people to noe who i am......

i am one of the regular brudder here post very often in the other forums.......just dun 1 people to noe who i am only.......

so wat u think about all those 1 post asking for free sex/3some/sex/ etc......


the phemone product go to:
http://www.androstenone-pheromone-concentrate.com/attract_women/faq.htm#order


for acne product go to
http://no-acne.com/main.htm

note: I am not affiliate to them lar...ok!!!!



Originally posted by LeMoN


This is a scam la.
1) there's no more angjohnhwang.
2) suddenly there's a roystonlau_sg who joined on 3rd Aug and make his 1st post stating so many testimonies on money back guarantee.
3) I'm sure after u make a purchase from this website, u wont even be getting any products nevertheless money back guarantee.
So suspicious ....

Swinger
09-08-2002, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by cock21
Hi all, just wondering anyone has tried these pills before, a nd whether or not they work as claimed.http://www.pillsexpert.com/index2.html
Usually, I'm damn sceptical about such things, but it seems that this website is actually offering a 100% guarantee.

the pills do not work. simply because of

1. the ingredients
2. the method which it claims to enlarge the penis

Firstly, those ingredients may increase your sex drive, but not your penis. anything that is non-hormonal in nature will not have be effective. For example, if a female takes testosterone, she will experience deeping of her voice, and other masculination effects. No herbal formula is able to do that, simply because it is unable to change how your system functions.

Drugs that ARE able to, are not available OTC and sold without a presciption.

2. The tissues it claim to enlarge are engorged with blood only during an erection. If the pills cause more blood to flow into the penis, then yes, you will have a slightly larger and stronger erection, but after that, it returns to normal. There is *NO* permanent effect.

Even penile enlargement surgery cannot increase your length. What it does it simply cut your suspensory ligament so your penis *LOOKS* longer. However, it can increase your girth permanently.

Other methods, such as weights or penis pumps, have their advantages ONLY IF YOU USE THEM CORRECTLY. If you hear horror stories, all I can say is, ask them what they did. There are tons of idiots out there. And I can safely say most people in SG have no idea what they are doing with those, especially since they are purchasing NOVELTY PUMPS. Get a medical grade pump (for impotency, from a doctor, not a sex shop) and compare the difference if you doubt me.

And, lastly, I really don't think you would get anywhere posting in a forum like this. If you want a truely independent and informed opinion, you should consult a GP. At least you know he has no vested interest in the product and will give you an explaination for why it does/doesn't work.

Personally, I like pumping, I like what it does for me. And if you truely *ARE* really interested in enlarging your penis, you would have done your research thoroughly rather than depending on 3rd party hearsay.

P.S. As for the money back guarantee, have you ever watched sellavision or any other similar marketing schemes? They *ALL* offer money back guarantee. Why do they do it? Go think about it... I'm not going to spoon feed you anymore.

Swinger
09-08-2002, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by roystonlau_sg
hahaha....scam.........u very imaginative......

yes, i register and post once and this my 2nd post....

y???? because i dun 1 people to noe who i am......

i am one of the regular brudder here post very often in the other forums.......just dun 1 people to noe who i am only.......

so wat u think about all those 1 post asking for free sex/3some/sex/ etc......


the phemone product go to:
http://www.androstenone-pheromone-concentrate.com/attract_women/faq.htm#order


for acne product go to
http://no-acne.com/main.htm

note: I am not affiliate to them lar...ok!!!!





You register & post only once. Fine. But WHY SPECIFICALLY THIS THREAD? Wah, a forum about sex, and the only thing that interests you enough to POST is about MONEY BACK GUARANTEE?

Also, you said you post alot in the other forums? then other brudders here should know you right? Then prove it. I don't see why you're afraid of them knowing who you are, since you are a LONG TIME REGULAR, and you're just posting about a money back guarantee. What is there to be afraid of, or being embarassed about?

The only reason I can see as to why you're being deceptive, if because you are lying about your first post.

LeMoN
10-08-2002, 02:29 AM
Originally posted by roystonlau_sg
hahaha....scam.........u very imaginative......

yes, i register and post once and this my 2nd post....

y???? because i dun 1 people to noe who i am......

Fact or scam? I'll leave it to those bros here to think abt it :cool:

cock21
10-08-2002, 01:52 PM
Hey bro, tell me more about this medical grade pump. This is the first time I'm hearing about it. How does it defer from the ones found in the sex shops? Where can I get one and how much does it cost??

Originally posted by Swinger


Other methods, such as weights or penis pumps, have their advantages ONLY IF YOU USE THEM CORRECTLY. If you hear horror stories, all I can say is, ask them what they did. There are tons of idiots out there. And I can safely say most people in SG have no idea what they are doing with those, especially since they are purchasing NOVELTY PUMPS. Get a medical grade pump (for impotency, from a doctor, not a sex shop) and compare the difference if you doubt me.

Swinger
10-08-2002, 09:54 PM
These pumps are prescribed for men suffering from impotency, whereby they are unable to gain or sustain an erection.

The difference is that:

1. novelty pumps are mass produced. the cylinder is not designed for your penis. e.g. if the tube is too wide, you don't gain much in length, but rather, you gain more in girth. Also, a tube that is too wide will pull part of your groin area into the tube while pumping, so it hurts.

2. novelty pumps are not designed well. the pump itself cannot maintain *constant* suction for long. so you cannot get the pressure you need, and also, you need to keep looking for when pressure keeps dropping. Anyone who has pumped before can tell you that is irritating.

3. The seals for novelty pumps do not last. They don't seal well after a short while, so air escapes. They also do not cater for a growing penis.


However, if you do want to buy a similar pump, you don't need to go to a doctor, all you need to do is source around for a good quality pump (not in singapore, I get all my pumps from US).

cock21
10-08-2002, 10:10 PM
Thanks a lot bro!! Very informative I must say....a final request, can you give me urls to any websites which sell these pumps, as I intend to buy them online. (You might want to PM me regarding this though, lest you be wrongly accused of having a vested interest in the company which manufactures these medical grade penis pumps.)

Originally posted by Swinger
These pumps are prescribed for men suffering from impotency, whereby they are unable to gain or sustain an erection.

The difference is that:

1. novelty pumps are mass produced. the cylinder is not designed for your penis. e.g. if the tube is too wide, you don't gain much in length, but rather, you gain more in girth. Also, a tube that is too wide will pull part of your groin area into the tube while pumping, so it hurts.

2. novelty pumps are not designed well. the pump itself cannot maintain *constant* suction for long. so you cannot get the pressure you need, and also, you need to keep looking for when pressure keeps dropping. Anyone who has pumped before can tell you that is irritating.

3. The seals for novelty pumps do not last. They don't seal well after a short while, so air escapes. They also do not cater for a growing penis.


However, if you do want to buy a similar pump, you don't need to go to a doctor, all you need to do is source around for a good quality pump (not in singapore, I get all my pumps from US).