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[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by pooker

I am afraid APEC biz travel card is only applicable for Business/Trading related, Gov trade relation officers and is not applicable for tourist alike.

"The members of the business community who has activities of trade and investment with the (21) participating countries and must provide a supporting letter from the regulatory agencies."

so I got mine from China Chamber of Commerce (Associated Chinese Chamber Of Commerce & Industry-ACCIM).

Once i got the recommendation everything needs to be approved by Ministry of Home Affairs.

I think its similar procedure in Singapore as well. Hope this helps !

Say WHAT? It’s that different in Singapore? (Or is that Malaysia??)

I of course do not know what all is involved with applying for an APEC card from Singapore, but I would THINK that since this is a Multi-nation effort to enhance the mobility of business travelers – ergo business - among APEC economies that there would be certain uniformity and similar standards.

** All I needed to apply for my APEC card was to fill out a very straight-forward/simple application form accompanied by 2 pictures, copy of my passport and a support letter which I had my Financial Controller (my staff) sign requesting that I be issued the card as I am required to travel to various countries to oversee our investment portfolio/search investment opportunities.

** The way I understand it, the company supporting the card application should be at the same country as where the application is lodged at. Ie. No requirement for you to have a company in the foreign country.

** As far as I know, there were NO checks on my company carried out. And in fact, I doubt they’d have time to do such check as I received my first country’s approval within ONE week of my application; within this one week of my application submission to the Hong Kong immigration department, I received confirmation of such from the Business Mobility Group - the transnational body responsible for the issuance of these APEC Cards. This confirmation also gave me a website where I was able to “Track” the progress of my application – and as above I got “approved “ by the first country within one week.

** The whole process takes approximately 3 to 4 months for all the participating countries to advise their approval to the Hong Kong immigration department; but you can nominate a maximum of 5 countries which you need to visit as a priority/should expedite when you submit your application and receive an interim card.

** My APEC card costs me only HK$427 (same price from when I applied for the first of my consecutive 4 cards) – a heckuva saving over the quite high cost of having to apply to individual countries. I remember a few years ago having to apply for a ONE visit visa good only for one month from Vietnam and it cost me US$200. But more important having an APEC card saves me all the cost, time and hassles of having to apply for visas to individual countries.

** When I use my APEC card to enter a country listed on my APEC card (this time I got 18 countries, including Russia) I am granted stays of 60 days, but I also read that there are countries who will grant 90 days.

Please double check for yourself from these web pages. Like I said, all my applications had been a breeze but of course this is from Hong Kong.

http://www.businessmobility.org/index.asp
https://eabtc.ica.gov.sg/eabtc/index.xhtml
https://eabtc.ica.gov.sg/eabtc/xhtml/info/Faq.xhtml
http://www.immd.gov.hk/en/services/h...avel-card.html

SEAJ

[callandor]

going to cp on 20/9/14 to 23/9/14, any bro want meet up ?

[MichaelWinn]

Originally Posted by pooker

I am afraid APEC biz travel card is only applicable for Business/Trading related, Gov trade relation officers and is not applicable for tourist alike.

"The members of the business community who has activities of trade and investment with the (21) participating countries and must provide a supporting letter from the regulatory agencies."

so I got mine from China Chamber of Commerce (Associated Chinese Chamber Of Commerce & Industry-ACCIM).

Once i got the recommendation everything needs to be approved by Ministry of Home Affairs.

I think its similar procedure in Singapore as well. Hope this helps !

i am afraid what you say is very true
not everyone can get the apec card
if you apply in spore the spore ministry of home affairs will surely check one's
background carefully
unless you are working in the spore goverment stats board,most ordinary
people will not be able to get a supporting letter from the regulatory bodies
the only way to get round this is to register a trade company in hong kong and then use it to support your application
personally i feel it is better to have hong kong citizenship than to have a spore passport if you plan to stay long term in china
on another note i realise japan also take better care of its citizens who are overseas than the spore embassies overseas
most spore embassies only pay lip service and go by the book strictly
if you ever get into trouble outside spore, you will know what i mean

[MichaelWinn]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

Say WHAT? It’s that different in Singapore? (Or is that Malaysia??)

I of course do not know what all is involved with applying for an APEC card from Singapore, but I would THINK that since this is a Multi-nation effort to enhance the mobility of business travelers – ergo business - among APEC economies that there would be certain uniformity and similar standards.

** All I needed to apply for my APEC card was to fill out a very straight-forward/simple application form accompanied by 2 pictures, copy of my passport and a support letter which I had my Financial Controller (my staff) sign requesting that I be issued the card as I am required to travel to various countries to oversee our investment portfolio/search investment opportunities.

** The way I understand it, the company supporting the card application should be at the same country as where the application is lodged at. Ie. No requirement for you to have a company in the foreign country.

** As far as I know, there were NO checks on my company carried out. And in fact, I doubt they’d have time to do such check as I received my first country’s approval within ONE week of my application; within this one week of my application submission to the Hong Kong immigration department, I received confirmation of such from the Business Mobility Group - the transnational body responsible for the issuance of these APEC Cards. This confirmation also gave me a website where I was able to “Track” the progress of my application – and as above I got “approved “ by the first country within one week.

** The whole process takes approximately 3 to 4 months for all the participating countries to advise their approval to the Hong Kong immigration department; but you can nominate a maximum of 5 countries which you need to visit as a priority/should expedite when you submit your application and receive an interim card.

** My APEC card costs me only HK$427 (same price from when I applied for the first of my consecutive 4 cards) – a heckuva saving over the quite high cost of having to apply to individual countries. I remember a few years ago having to apply for a ONE visit visa good only for one month from Vietnam and it cost me US$200. But more important having an APEC card saves me all the cost, time and hassles of having to apply for visas to individual countries.

** When I use my APEC card to enter a country listed on my APEC card (this time I got 18 countries, including Russia) I am granted stays of 60 days, but I also read that there are countries who will grant 90 days.

Please double check for yourself from these web pages. Like I said, all my applications had been a breeze but of course this is from Hong Kong.

http://www.businessmobility.org/index.asp
https://eabtc.ica.gov.sg/eabtc/index.xhtml
https://eabtc.ica.gov.sg/eabtc/xhtml/info/Faq.xhtml
http://www.immd.gov.hk/en/services/h...avel-card.html

SEAJ

i am afraid what you say is very true
not everyone can get the apec card
if you apply in spore the spore ministry of home affairs will surely check one's
background carefully
unless you are working in the spore goverment stats board,most ordinary
people will not be able to get a supporting letter from the regulatory bodies
the only way to get round this is to register a trade company in hong kong and then use it to support your application
personally i feel it is better to have hong kong citizenship than to have a spore passport if you plan to stay long term in china
on another note i realise japan also take better care of its citizens who are overseas than the spore embassies overseas
most spore embassies only pay lip service and go by the book strictly
if you ever get into trouble outside spore, you will know what i mean

[TonyCheong]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinn

most spore embassies only pay lip service and go by the book strictly
if you ever get into trouble outside spore, you will know what i mean

Haha bro you're so right and I know what you mean due to my personal experiences with Singapore Embassy and General Consulate in overseas.

Singaporeans having emergencies or troubles in overseas better ji gey gao tim.

By the way any Singaporeans who get into trouble in South China the Singapore General Consulate to call/visit is at Guangzhou.

[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinn

i am afraid what you say is very true
not everyone can get the apec card
if you apply in spore the spore ministry of home affairs will surely check one's
background carefully
unless you are working in the spore goverment stats board,most ordinary
people will not be able to get a supporting letter from the regulatory bodies
the only way to get round this is to register a trade company in hong kong and then use it to support your application
personally i feel it is better to have hong kong citizenship than to have a spore passport if you plan to stay long term in china
on another note i realise japan also take better care of its citizens who are overseas than the spore embassies overseas
most spore embassies only pay lip service and go by the book strictly
if you ever get into trouble outside spore, you will know what i mean

Businessmen don't need a supporting letter from a regulatory body - just a simple letter from their own company suffices.

And I'd think that Singapore would like to have your citizens do as much business as possible anywhere - why would the government stand in the way of this?

And by the way, APEC cards of Hong Kong SAR passport holders will NOT include the PRC as countries approved - we are instead required to use our "Home Return Permit" to enter China.

SEAJ

[MichaelWinn]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

Businessmen don't need a supporting letter from a regulatory body - just a simple letter from their own company suffices.

And I'd think that Singapore would like to have your citizens do as much business as possible anywhere - why would the government stand in the way of this?

And by the way, APEC cards of Hong Kong SAR passport holders will NOT include the PRC as countries approved - we are instead required to use our "Home Return Permit" to enter China.

SEAJ

the home return permit is much better
it grants hong kong citizens a minimum of 90 days to remain in china
and up to a maximum of 10 years to remain in mainland china
apec card only allows one to stay 60 days in china,then you need to head to
either russia,or mongolia or south korea for a visa run
north korea is only suitable for malaysian passport holders
as malaysians do not need visa for north korea
malaysia is the only country that do not need visa for north korea

[MichaelWinn]

Originally Posted by TonyCheong

Haha bro you're so right and I know what you mean due to my personal experiences with Singapore Embassy and General Consulate in overseas.

Singaporeans having emergencies or troubles in overseas better ji gey gao tim.

By the way any Singaporeans who get into trouble in South China the Singapore General Consulate to call/visit is at Guangzhou.

the japanese goverment is so much caring for its citizens overseas
when i was in dalian, i saw the the japanese embassy there offering
legal,monetary aid and even arrange free lodging for its citizens in dalian and shenyang
the spore embassies in china cannot even hold a candle to the japanese embassy
i really salute the japanese
to all singaporeans out there go dump your passports
and emigrate to japan or south korea
i believe japan and south korea really take good care of its citizens overseas

[zipzap69]

Originally Posted by MichaelWinn

i am afraid what you say is very true
not everyone can get the apec card
if you apply in spore the spore ministry of home affairs will surely check one's
background carefully
unless you are working in the spore goverment stats board,most ordinary
people will not be able to get a supporting letter from the regulatory bodies
the only way to get round this is to register a trade company in hong kong and then use it to support your application
personally i feel it is better to have hong kong citizenship than to have a spore passport if you plan to stay long term in china
on another note i realise japan also take better care of its citizens who are overseas than the spore embassies overseas
most spore embassies only pay lip service and go by the book strictly
if you ever get into trouble outside spore, you will know what i mean

Yes, you are absolutely correct.. APEC Card is NOT for the ordinary tourist, its meant for genuine business community.

Need an endorsement on your application from local Chinese Chamber of Commerce, then application goes in for government security agency vetting- long winded process. Sbranch probably starts a file on you without you even knowing!

[SEAJ]

Just used my APEC card to enter Phuket just now; I got 90 days stay to 12 December!!

This should be interesting for guys who stay longer term in Thailand - especially since the Thai authorities are now cracking down.

SEAJ

[Allanooi]

Heard those love wear yellow or red shirts tourists can stay longer even if enter via apec card lol... In their military camps under house arrest lol

[sexrookie]

Originally Posted by Allanooi

Heard those love wear yellow or red shirts tourists can stay longer even if enter via apec card lol... In their military camps under house arrest lol

Haha, a good one for the day

[SEAJ]

Originally Posted by Allanooi

Heard those love wear yellow or red shirts tourists can stay longer even if enter via apec card lol... In their military camps under house arrest lol

Hmmmm.... Not quite sure the humour, or context of this.

Just wonderin'
SEAJ

[sexrookie]

Originally Posted by SEAJ

Hmmmm.... Not quite sure the humour, or context of this.

Just wonderin'
SEAJ

Is a political joke

The color represent the different ruling parties

Regards

[Allanooi]

Originally Posted by sexrookie

Is a political joke

The color represent the different ruling parties

Regards

hahaha sex rookie only people from S.E.A. Know such joke lol ... Side Tracked back to infor on CA scene leihong DFJH left for another KTV small town in guangdong 清远国际酒店 now is around 100 mins from baiyun airport to qing yuan city ... 300 ktv meimei