The scene in ChangPing , will it be something like this.. The ktv and Pub in the clip i going to post is really happening, can't find that in singapore. If have like that in ChangPing , can any kind bros share your FR..
hahaha....100+500+400= more than 1000 gals and all 5.5/10 or 6/10????
U could not pick more than 1 gal per night????
By the way what diff between 5.5 and 6 ah????
U really choosy leh....Obviously u did not miss flight home this time
cos quality just not there.
Hope see u again soon.
The one in people's park???still open meh???
haha not all 5.5/10 or 6/10 lah bro... but the majority was like that.... not just me... even my taikor also only managed to pick 1 every night leh except the last night when he couldnt take it anymore and picked 4 haha.. and out of this 4 he did not even bring a single back... i reckon maybe i was there at a wrong time... the better MMs could have gone back for Qing Ming after they made their money the previous long wkend...
dont dare to miss flight again already lah bro.. hahaha... speaking of which... seems like both times i met u i also missed my flight hor... hahaha!!! hope to see u soon bro!!! when's ur next trip?
there's a good wanton mee in people's park? i only know got crazy queue for the yong tau hu there... i was talking abt the one at lavender... the one there always long queue one... sometimes u'll see a person there standing ard asking ppl not to eat there coz they keep rising their price and quality nv improve... but this person still keep standing ard there hoping that the price wont go up anymore so that he can have the same thing at the old price again...
i agree with bro adidas abt wanting value for the money we spend... but for someone to expect the prices to stay, in the current era of inflation, that is just wishful thinking... yes, ktvs shld do more to give value to our spending which is why i say that i agree with SEAJ's proposals for the ktv management... but at the end of the day, some things are just beyond our control so we shld just enjoy while it last, make hay while the sun shine!!! who knows maybe 5 yrs from now CP will be Shanghai price and by then, we wont even have a place for us brothers from all over to come together to meet up and have fun....
Wow Lao... picking more than one gal my norm leh...
Normally 2-3 for me Lah.. bobian Lah, me big fag ugly mah..
Scare the gal chu pattern, at least got back up. If 2-3 dun work, I will pick 4-6 next time loh. Haha.
Since we are well known to spoil market, who cares how the market will be.
If can't afford, then be like what all other hkie n Taiwanese have done, move else where to have fun. No point kpkb.. u dun pay others will.
When it have reach a point where it's really consider too ex for many, then naturally it will die down.. no need us to control the market.
U think my surname is jiang, hu Mao or recently xi meh..
Kudos to you bro - for explicitly expressing what some other bros here are probably also thinking - but too polite to actually write out.
For in actual fact - especially when we go out mongering - we guys many times say "The Hell with others, I want MY fun! Screw the rest of them!"
But things in CP are IMHO at a turning point and the latest price increases (and worse, the really bad, and worsening attitude of these girls AND their minders) have already started to turn off a lot of mongers. And your prediction that that "When it have reach a point where it's really consider too ex for many, then naturally it will die down" will come true and ... I fear will totally kill off this little hamlet.
And NOBODY WINS - not us, not the operators and not even the girls (if they have not made as much money as possible at this IMHO, last stage of CP).
Like I have all along heart-fully been appealing to all of you - please do consider the results of your own actions - coz it will probably also affect your personally in the end.
Thank you - wish I could UPZ you for speaking out the unspeakable!
But I already did so in the past and cannot do so again.
The scene in ChangPing , will it be something like this.. The ktv and Pub in the clip i going to post is really happening, can't find that in singapore. If have like that in ChangPing , can any kind bros share your FR..
Hope you don't mind me replying to you here instead of by replying to your PM as HOPEFULLY, others here can also be informed.
Firstly, the clip you showed is about Lan Kwai fong in Hong Kong, which is where most supposedly "freebie" action is at (with only a sprinkling of paid action) whilst the action in CP is practically totally all paid working girls. Yes, there are clubs like shown in the clip in CP - California Red/R2, Mango etc - but even these venues are full of WG's instead of regular civvies.
CP action centres MOSTLY around Hostessed KTV's where girls are available to sit and "go out" with you afterwards, all for a price, Saunas where the only action is full-on sex, BBS's which offers girls as low as RMB150/pop, and with the rest of the girls "parading their wares" supposedly as decent regular girls, but who are actually just ones willing to forego short term benefits for the longer term "Kill" - DJ's at the KTV's, footsie girls, even waitresses/shop girls who are at the ready to pounce on the unsuspecting quarry! LOL
Just all my very humble POV - but I THINK most others in the know will hopefully agree!
haha not all 5.5/10 or 6/10 lah bro... but the majority was like that.... not just me... even my taikor also only managed to pick 1 every night leh except the last night when he couldnt take it anymore and picked 4 haha.. and out of this 4 he did not even bring a single back... i reckon maybe i was there at a wrong time... the better MMs could have gone back for Qing Ming after they made their money the previous long wkend...
dont dare to miss flight again already lah bro.. hahaha... speaking of which... seems like both times i met u i also missed my flight hor... hahaha!!! hope to see u soon bro!!! when's ur next trip?
there's a good wanton mee in people's park? i only know got crazy queue for the yong tau hu there... i was talking abt the one at lavender... the one there always long queue one... sometimes u'll see a person there standing ard asking ppl not to eat there coz they keep rising their price and quality nv improve... but this person still keep standing ard there hoping that the price wont go up anymore so that he can have the same thing at the old price again...
i agree with bro adidas abt wanting value for the money we spend... but for someone to expect the prices to stay, in the current era of inflation, that is just wishful thinking... yes, ktvs shld do more to give value to our spending which is why i say that i agree with SEAJ's proposals for the ktv management... but at the end of the day, some things are just beyond our control so we shld just enjoy while it last, make hay while the sun shine!!! who knows maybe 5 yrs from now CP will be Shanghai price and by then, we wont even have a place for us brothers from all over to come together to meet up and have fun....
Ya loh.. If u think the wanton mee is ex, then dun eat loh..
If u dun feel value for money, then dun buy loh..
Come to think of it, I have not eat that wanton mee for 3-4 years Liao.. Really not worth the price.. So I eat the fish ball mee. Haha.
See I got a choice right. Complain and no action is not going to get u anywhere.. Haha..
Seaj, I believe u have meet up with a few sbf bros right.. Including FGG right??.
So have u told FGG in the face that he should not pick more than 1 gal, dun spoil market?
I believe not right... And I think u are envy that he has many gals to help him out int food and fan him.. I still remember u praise him for knowing how to enjoy life..
How come one moment u keep asking others to keep the cost down by having only one gal and dun pay extra etc..
But the next moment in front of FGG, u are full of envy and dare not tell hi to reduce his calling of gals??
U got double standard is it??? Just because FGG is ur friends, he can be different???
Also I remember u got a group of really high spending friends which u keep boosting about.. The treatment they get in dihao etc etc.. So have u ask them to spend like u always say u used to be. Min spending and only one gal?
So aren't they spoiling the market also.... Or just because they rich they can be excuse... Hmm...
Ya loh.. If u think the wanton mee is ex, then dun eat loh..
If u dun feel value for money, then dun buy loh..
Come to think of it, I have not eat that wanton mee for 3-4 years Liao.. Really not worth the price.. So I eat the fish ball mee. Haha.
See I got a choice right. Complain and no action is not going to get u anywhere.. Haha..
Seaj, I believe u have meet up with a few sbf bros right.. Including FGG right??.
So have u told FGG in the face that he should not pick more than 1 gal, dun spoil market?
I believe not right... And I think u are envy that he has many gals to help him out int food and fan him.. I still remember u praise him for knowing how to enjoy life..
How come one moment u keep asking others to keep the cost down by having only one gal and dun pay extra etc..
But the next moment in front of FGG, u are full of envy and dare not tell hi to reduce his calling of gals??
U got double standard is it??? Just because FGG is ur friends, he can be different???
Also I remember u got a group of really high spending friends which u keep boosting about.. The treatment they get in dihao etc etc.. So have u ask them to spend like u always say u used to be. Min spending and only one gal?
So aren't they spoiling the market also.... Or just because they rich they can be excuse... Hmm...
Next time if I see FGG only picking one gal, then I know u have really do what u say.
FGG kor kor, if u pick 1 gal for the night. Then next time I also pick 1.
Ps... But dun mean I will not call up back ups. Haha.
Hope you don't mind me replying to you here instead of by replying to your PM as HOPEFULLY, others here can also be informed.
Firstly, the clip you showed is about Lan Kwai fong in Hong Kong, which is where most supposedly "freebie" action is at (with only a sprinkling of paid action) whilst the action in CP is practically totally all paid working girls. Yes, there are clubs like shown in the clip in CP - California Red/R2, Mango etc - but even these venues are full of WG's instead of regular civvies.
CP action centres MOSTLY around Hostessed KTV's where girls are available to sit and "go out" with you afterwards, all for a price, Saunas where the only action is full-on sex, BBS's which offers girls as low as RMB150/pop, and with the rest of the girls "parading their wares" supposedly as decent regular girls, but who are actually just ones willing to forego short term benefits for the longer term "Kill" - DJ's at the KTV's, footsie girls, even waitresses/shop girls who are at the ready to pounce on the unsuspecting quarry! LOL
Just all my very humble POV - but I THINK most others in the know will hopefully agree!
SEAJ
Well well.. This is a nice piece of info and advise.
More info like this is welcome.. And please less complain... Omg...
Seaj, I believe u have meet up with a few sbf bros right.. Including FGG right??.
So have u told FGG in the face that he should not pick more than 1 gal, dun spoil market?
I believe not right... And I think u are envy that he has many gals to help him out int food and fan him.. I still remember u praise him for knowing how to enjoy life..
How come one moment u keep asking others to keep the cost down by having only one gal and dun pay extra etc..
But the next moment in front of FGG, u are full of envy and dare not tell hi to reduce his calling of gals??
U got double standard is it??? Just because FGG is ur friends, he can be different???
Also I remember u got a group of really high spending friends which u keep boosting about.. The treatment they get in dihao etc etc.. So have u ask them to spend like u always say u used to be. Min spending and only one gal?
So aren't they spoiling the market also.... Or just because they rich they can be excuse... Hmm...
LOL! Funny you mention our friend FGG, for we were just chatting a whole afternoon couple days ago; and amongst other things we discussed you and of course my general appeal here. So yes I have said it to him precisely.
And it's still his choice if he will or will not; for one thing old habits die hard but more importantly, he is just a generous guy who most times get extra girls and actually assign some to his guests whilst he Picks up the tab. He does not do it to show off or from a need to let people know that he is well- off as everybody Already knows; unlike SOME others who are zeroes at home and try to become heroes in CP! And I think we all know who these are! LOL
And as for my local friends who goes to ktvs OUTSIDE of cp - errrr... YOU want to tell them???!!! Local PRC hotshots are a different breed. Plus please note that this group of friends never play in cp plus the fact that its at least a year or even 2 ago that I went with them
SEAJ
Ps. Please tell me what is your motivation getting multiple girls? You REALLY are worried - as per what you stated - that you would be so unappealing that you need reserves and to ensure that you have a girl to accompany you? Oh my!
Also I remember u got a group of really high spending friends which u keep boosting about.. The treatment they get in dihao etc etc.. So have u ask them to spend like ...
LOL
Truly amazing that you would have taken my report as to what Dihao is all about - that their treatment of favored vs just regular clients is like night and day - as being boasting!
Truly a wonder the way your brain functions! And my apologies to YOU if you really thought I need to boast.
LOL! Funny you mention our friend FGG, for we were just chatting a whole afternoon couple days ago; and amongst other things we discussed you and of course my general appeal here. So yes I have said it to him precisely.
And it's still his choice if he will or will not; for one thing old habits die hard but more importantly, he is just a generous guy who most times get extra girls and actually assign some to his guests whilst he Picks up the tab. He does not do it to show off or from a need to let people know that he is well- off as everybody Already knows; unlike SOME others who are zeroes at home and try to become heroes in CP! And I think we all know who these are! LOL
And as for my local friends who goes to ktvs OUTSIDE of cp - errrr... YOU want to tell them???!!! Local PRC hotshots are a different breed. Plus please note that this group of friends never play in cp plus the fact that its at least a year or even 2 ago that I went with them
SEAJ
Ps. Please tell me what is your motivation getting multiple girls? You REALLY are worried - as per what you stated - that you would be so unappealing that you need reserves and to ensure that you have a girl to accompany you? Oh my!
Of course I'm worry! Sleeping alone in cp is something sinful to me!
So anything wrong with having more than 1 gal inside KTV? S if this gal chu pattern I still have 2nd 3rd or even 4th to bring back.. If all else fail, I still got regulars to fall back on..
So why should I follow the way the hkie or Taiwanese party?! I dun get it.. So u mean if a poor follow can only have 1 dish on table cause no wastage or simply to save money, rich cant have 10 dish on table even if he can afford it?!
Hmm... FGG can spoil the market cause he's not consider showing off and pure generous... So what makes u think the others are not when u condemn them.. Haha..
Oh to think u even bother to check out me with FGG.. I hope he dun bad mouth me too much. Haha...
Maybe u check with some others like Sam, ksst krone WKK etc etc.. Maybe they got kinder words for me. Heehee
Stop playing words games with me.. I'm poorly learned.. Sorry to say that...
LOL
Truly amazing that you would have taken my report as to what Dihao is all about - that their treatment of favored vs just regular clients is like night and day - as being boasting!
Truly a wonder the way your brain functions! And my apologies to YOU if you really thought I need to boast.
SEAJ
Hmm... Maybe I use a wrong word to express myself..
It seems like u are very proud to be able to rub shoulder with those guys Cause they can spend money and spoil market. Haha
All this criticism from me and so where's my solution?
- Why can't HMTL's operators set each girls' rates at exactly the same as what she was charging at her old place....but that the company/Mommy cut be lowered, and thus allowing the girl to make a bit more for doing the same thing.
[Suck Harder] You have to understand, new KTV operators poach managers and mummies too. Why would they join the new joints if their net income is going to be cut? Companies like KTV have a short life span. They need to maximise their profit. Last time MF couldn't open for various reason... now nobody cares if a new joint comes out. And the older KTVs can't compete due to hardware.
- And instead of just fining the girls for even the most innocent of mistakes, that they should also have a system of pay incentives for achievement, favorable assessment from actual client's comments/recommendations, repeat customer requests for her to sit with him (instead of right now when most girls will NOT report back to their mommies when getting such repeat clients/would just report sick or code red or whatever; this should be an incentive for the girl to get the client to come back to the KTV and spend money there instead of elsewhere).
[Suck Harder] This model will not work for CP KTV. Sauna maybe like what other inner cities did may work, but then again may not work for CP. A SN captain once told me recently, so damn difficult to get girls to work, especially quality girls. China is now no2 in terms of economy, a lot people fail to realise that. So many rich people around... you think the girls want to work? The 80s girls most probably work for their family back home, thus some stability. But the 90s girl mostly work for fun or for their wolf dog... getting them to work is hard in the first place and getting them to work long term... even harder especially for the prettier ones.
- Institute a system to reward repeat clients (frequency card, points card etc) instead of the way it is most times right now, when mommies will instead take advantage of their clients as they have this stupid smug attitude that if one is a repeat client, that she's more important to him than he is to her.
[Suck Harder] A lot of KTVs like Ouya, Yihao, MF etc already have so call reward system in place. Eg, Ouya has the card where you can don't pay the extra service charge/tax.
- Have special offers by email or text messages etc for these clients instead of only offering such to new clients.
[Suck Harder] How to when the managers are switching joints too? And to them the customers are from overseas. You think cheongsters will fly to CP just for the Bikini night in Ouya a couple of weeks back? Not many of us can afford this type of impromptu planning.
SEAJ
Hi there,
A lot of debate here and allow me to add in what I think IMHO. First of all, did you really ask cheongsters here to pick only 1 girl? You shouldn't if you did that (sorry lazy to read all the post in detail). Some guys just want to 左拥右抱 so really nothing wrong to call 2 girls. Some even want doublefly... LOL. As for your point on overtipping... my friends and I try to not overtip. But sometimes it is hard. Eg, you like the girl you pick in KTV and want to repeat her next time. If she is hot property you think she will answer your call if you just tip the normal rate? And nowadays in CP not many hot girls to go around. Most hot ones are being baoed...
Some of your solutions the KTV already have it in place. See my reply withinin your reply.
CP is really getting very expensive, people keep saying it. But people will still continue to go for obvious reasons. You are most probably right by saying CP is now at turning point. From 258 to now 3-8 -12. With only 1 cat to now multiple cat... Demand and supply will determine if this model is substainable and let time tell if indeed CP can continue. BTW more and more friends of mine want to be agent... so you can see the amount of money to be made.
I certainly hope what you say can happen and I will do my part. But in reality you are fighting a fultile fight just like environmentalist advocating us to save trees by using less paper.
ps: I seldom post so like to take this opportunity to thank bro FGG when he visited me in PZL room. As a junior and insignificant cheongster, it speaks volume when someone like FGG bothers to visit me. To bro FGG, I meant to go down visit you in your room, but I guess you beat me to it. This speaks favourably to what kind of Taigor you are. Hope next time got chance to party again though you have to let me know the damage up front! LOL
Of course I'm worry! Sleeping alone in cp is something sinful to me!
So anything wrong with having more than 1 gal inside KTV? S if this gal chu pattern I still have 2nd 3rd or even 4th to bring back.. If all else fail, I still got regulars to fall back on..
So why should I follow the way the hkie or Taiwanese party?! I dun get it.. So u mean if a poor follow can only have 1 dish on table cause no wastage or simply to save money, rich cant have 10 dish on table even if he can afford it?!
Hmm... FGG can spoil the market cause he's not consider showing off and pure generous... So what makes u think the others are not when u condemn them.. Haha..
Oh to think u even bother to check out me with FGG.. I hope he dun bad mouth me too much. Haha...
Maybe u check with some others like Sam, ksst krone WKK etc etc.. Maybe they got kinder words for me. Heehee
Stop playing words games with me.. I'm poorly learned.. Sorry to say that...
If its the words u after.. Let u win lol...
hmmmm... Now that you put it that way, I guess we do need to grant you special dispensation; otherwise you'd NEVER get a girl to bong you otherwise!!!
And I really don't think that being a smart cp goer and astute party-er is limited to hongkong or Taiwan guys. I know for a fact that there are smart guys/ not suckers Singaporean/Malaysians - amongst other nationalities.
But of course there are some In any nationalities who Are ....
LOL!
And why would you think I'd bother to check with anybody else! Your name just came up when we were shooting the breeze and talking bullshit!
07-04-2013, 01:35 PM
