Oh.. and I forgot to include an afternoon's outing to JinLongDao in Changan for a YiDiaoLong. This outing was definitely value for money 2-shot satisfaction guaranteed!
Was @ Virgin twice last week... went in once at 1am... 3 am closing time I believe. 1130am opening but not many girls. Decent choice of girls overall... I was shown 2 categories 400 and 500. 320 for room if you don't call ahead. Call ahead and there's a 40 discount. Sauna at 3rd floor with rooms on 4th I think. Pretty decent experience overall. Recommend.
Bro, the problem with HMTL is not with the KTV, but the price of the girls. Reduce the girls price, the place will be fully booked
Bro, think this is highly unlikely。 这是条不回头路。 Cinaman do business wont think of the long term one. They are trying to go for the kill in a short span of time since ktv bus is booming now in cp. furthermore this joint is outsourced ,the more they are trying to recuperate their investment in the shortest time possible.
Side note....bro joe. Wish to support but I share the same sentiment of bro acid man. 有心没银啊。
By the way as you might know the cost of living there was not cheap, so the non working girls, just like sauna, ktv or pzl mms, have to work high number of hours per week to cover the cost of living and they also have few off days. so in order to have fun, you might have to end up compensate them therefore paying roughly the same amount. Emotional connection does sometimes cost more ;p
Haha yes I agree. But, somehow, being with a non working girl is more chio sometimes. What do you think is an appropriate amount to give them after a date? I don't want to offend them by categorizing them as a working girl but then again, if I give too little, that's bad too. Thanks bro!
Thanks bro. Just FYI, around 3am, they turned off air conditioning and that was a bit stuffy. I think I might've been a last customer or something. Girl said they always do that???
Received a few pms re: my KtV experience and wanted to publicly address several points for bros' benefit.
- if you're a light drinker, such as myself, you can opt for something non-alcoholic. 2 out of the 4 girls I had at KTV actually preferred not to drink so much. Plus, a drunk girl at the end of the night isn't usually that great for your nighttime exercise activities.
- at MF, mummys were more pushy than YH imho... However, I just keep moving and give them any excuse I can think of. Don't feel obligated to take the girl they push you. MF model cat is 1300 for the night... The other cat I chose was 1100.
- I gave each KTV girl 50 tip as advised by some senior bros. no need to give more... Just call it a cab fare tip.
- do be ontime for fs... Each time when I was on time, already many punters there viewing! Don't get stuck with someone you wouldn't even look at back home. Girls leftover are brought to ktv rooms later on in the night... So if you picked a girl you eventually find out to be a b*tch, you can still choose another. Make sure to ask if they're "fang bien qu chi." Aka available to go out... If not, then likely not going to bonk at night.
- lastly, standard time girls leave in the morning should be 7-8am (i'm told)... If she likes you, she might stay longer. Even the one that liked me that I took out 6x went home to "take care of errands" around noon most days she was with me. Fine by me since it gives me time to get a massage at pzl without paying for her massage as well.
Received a few pms re: my KtV experience and wanted to publicly address several points for bros' benefit.
- if you're a light drinker, such as myself, you can opt for something non-alcoholic. 2 out of the 4 girls I had at KTV actually preferred not to drink so much. Plus, a drunk girl at the end of the night isn't usually that great for your nighttime exercise activities.
- at MF, mummys were more pushy than YH imho... However, I just keep moving and give them any excuse I can think of. Don't feel obligated to take the girl they push you. MF model cat is 1300 for the night... The other cat I chose was 1100.
- I gave each KTV girl 50 tip as advised by some senior bros. no need to give more... Just call it a cab fare tip.
- do be ontime for fs... Each time when I was on time, already many punters there viewing! Don't get stuck with someone you wouldn't even look at back home. Girls leftover are brought to ktv rooms later on in the night... So if you picked a girl you eventually find out to be a b*tch, you can still choose another. Make sure to ask if they're "fang bien qu chi." Aka available to go out... If not, then likely not going to bonk at night.
- lastly, standard time girls leave in the morning should be 7-8am (i'm told)... If she likes you, she might stay longer. Even the one that liked me that I took out 6x went home to "take care of errands" around noon most days she was with me. Fine by me since it gives me time to get a massage at pzl without paying for her massage as well.
Hope this helps.
sigh... actually all this info can be found by searching the thread. frequently posted. nice FR btw.
about being on time for fs. yeah you would see the bulk of the stock by being early. but some of the very chio one are preselected even before the fs. like reserved by mummy for their big customers, kept woman by rich bosses orrrrrrrr chosen during meetings.
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The problem lies not just in the price - it lies in the price-quality ratio of HMTL. Just some thoughts on the matter, I was in HMTL in May so things might have changed
1. HMTL seems to let a gal pick her price/ or is their standards lower than YH and Ouya?: I do not know the vetting process of the gals in HMTL, but a gal that was a 3/7/11 in Ouya came over to HMTL and she's a 4/10/16. (I think after the increase in price in Ouya due to HMTL, the price is now 4/10/15). Also I suppose the gals that are 6-18-25 are previously 5-15-20 in Ouya and YH.
2. Management: the day I went, there was the guy scolding and reading out the names of gals that have been fined at the f street. I have no idea why you hold your management meetings when the f street is occurring, and I have no interest in gals been fined what not, why don't you have it before the f street? It's not very classy. I know Yihao sometimes does this but it leaves a bad impression.
3. Business Arrogance: Now I understand the strategy of trying to attract gals by offering higher prices. But after 3 months it doesn't seem to be working. I must admit, I went on a weekday so maybe the lack of customers there is more attributed to it being a weekday (Tuesday) - but when you have 100-150 gals but only 30 guys on f street it shows that there is a general dislike by your market of your product.
People are feedbacking that the price is too high, and you have ruined the market. Instead of accepting this feedback there is a continual challenge to say that it's not that expensive (even though it's the most expensive in CP factually). Customers also lan lan go boycott HMTL lor.
Look I'm talking about the KTV, the hotel at least is trying out to get a loyal base by lowering their rack rates to 300rmb/nite which is a really good deal (except of course all the problems they have and no contigency plan like blackout - I think if got fire people will die because no PA system)
What does KTV do? Offer 15% discount... Every KTV offers 10-15% discount of final bill lor.
The problem lies not just in the price - it lies in the price-quality ratio of HMTL. Just some thoughts on the matter, I was in HMTL in May so things might have changed
1. HMTL seems to let a gal pick her price/ or is their standards lower than YH and Ouya?: I do not know the vetting process of the gals in HMTL, but a gal that was a 3/7/11 in Ouya came over to HMTL and she's a 4/10/16. (I think after the increase in price in Ouya due to HMTL, the price is now 4/10/15). Also I suppose the gals that are 6-18-25 are previously 5-15-20 in Ouya and YH.
2. Management: the day I went, there was the guy scolding and reading out the names of gals that have been fined at the f street. I have no idea why you hold your management meetings when the f street is occurring, and I have no interest in gals been fined what not, why don't you have it before the f street? It's not very classy. I know Yihao sometimes does this but it leaves a bad impression.
3. Business Arrogance: Now I understand the strategy of trying to attract gals by offering higher prices. But after 3 months it doesn't seem to be working. I must admit, I went on a weekday so maybe the lack of customers there is more attributed to it being a weekday (Tuesday) - but when you have 100-150 gals but only 30 guys on f street it shows that there is a general dislike by your market of your product.
People are feedbacking that the price is too high, and you have ruined the market. Instead of accepting this feedback there is a continual challenge to say that it's not that expensive (even though it's the most expensive in CP factually). Customers also lan lan go boycott HMTL lor.
Look I'm talking about the KTV, the hotel at least is trying out to get a loyal base by lowering their rack rates to 300rmb/nite which is a really good deal (except of course all the problems they have and no contigency plan like blackout - I think if got fire people will die because no PA system)
What does KTV do? Offer 15% discount... Every KTV offers 10-15% discount of final bill lor.
actually quite simple. I just go to where i can find the pretty gals.. like ouya. why go ktv is to able to pick gals, drink, kc etc. if its too expensive stick to beer, control the bill and dun stay too late. leave by 10pm should be ok.
or there are always cheaper joints with gems like miraton huihua bandao etc.
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The problem lies not just in the price - it lies in the price-quality ratio of HMTL. Just some thoughts on the matter, I was in HMTL in May so things might have changed
1. HMTL seems to let a gal pick her price/ or is their standards lower than YH and Ouya?: I do not know the vetting process of the gals in HMTL, but a gal that was a 3/7/11 in Ouya came over to HMTL and she's a 4/10/16. (I think after the increase in price in Ouya due to HMTL, the price is now 4/10/15). Also I suppose the gals that are 6-18-25 are previously 5-15-20 in Ouya and YH.
2. Management: the day I went, there was the guy scolding and reading out the names of gals that have been fined at the f street. I have no idea why you hold your management meetings when the f street is occurring, and I have no interest in gals been fined what not, why don't you have it before the f street? It's not very classy. I know Yihao sometimes does this but it leaves a bad impression.
3. Business Arrogance: Now I understand the strategy of trying to attract gals by offering higher prices. But after 3 months it doesn't seem to be working. I must admit, I went on a weekday so maybe the lack of customers there is more attributed to it being a weekday (Tuesday) - but when you have 100-150 gals but only 30 guys on f street it shows that there is a general dislike by your market of your product.
People are feedbacking that the price is too high, and you have ruined the market. Instead of accepting this feedback there is a continual challenge to say that it's not that expensive (even though it's the most expensive in CP factually). Customers also lan lan go boycott HMTL lor.
Look I'm talking about the KTV, the hotel at least is trying out to get a loyal base by lowering their rack rates to 300rmb/nite which is a really good deal (except of course all the problems they have and no contigency plan like blackout - I think if got fire people will die because no PA system)
What does KTV do? Offer 15% discount... Every KTV offers 10-15% discount of final bill lor.
To be serious, gers also know what they want. Some girls refused to go up in grade as it will affect her income and customers brining them out. The tips partially have to be paid to the mummy so if only sitting fees, they seriously cannot afford their mid to high expenses. For me, i have my own standard also, overnite charges of 2K, 2.5K, 3K.. no matter if you call them "Model" to me not worth it. if i pay 2K, i can get 2 gers for double fly. The so call "Model" only certain percentage is very or extremely good looking. They are cat in to "Model" becoz of height, relationship with management. These so call "Model" also have more attitude issues and problems than normal cat gers. For HTML, the purposes of so much high priced gers is because they want to have more gers to come over to their place but they forgot than in competition, quantity is not that important as quality. For drinks, mostly there will be discount, for gers, if there are more nice normal grade gers and mid level gers you will make you place. but of coz in China, i believe HTML is targeting clients who are rich and famous or rich and powerful.
Anyway, sporean convert sing to rmb, you might find it okay since cheong not frequent but to me i find it expensive and pointless. As i have said, KTV mostly now do not even provide much service. For overnite if i have to pay 2K, i can get double fly or i go SN and get a nice and service orientated gers for ON. Just my point of view.
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Ya not all girls wanted to increase their price tag too .....
Many gals know that even they are tag at 1100 / 1200 for over nite , customer will usually give them 1-200 more , still come back to almost the same as 1400/1500 ....and best part is if their price tag at lower and with above average looking , their chances of choosen are higher too .
06-06-2013, 10:18 PM
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