This is very detailed and informative guide for newbie. Now at least we know the correct amount to tip.
Are those le duyen saloon fall under your category of tourist/Viet kieus massage?
Thanks for taking the time to write
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There are MANY diff types of massage so its better you state which type you want so OTHERS can give you specifics, but here is a
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When you go to a massage parlour, you will further be given more choices of rooms, this is divided in phong thuong (standard, VIP and Super VIP)
Standard 1hr duration
This means you go into a locker room, you will eb given a key into which you put your clothes, make sure you do use the waterproof bag provided and bring you valuable
I used to be a fan of le duyen 4 at truong dinh 2 years ago, back then I pay about 200(tic) + 200 (tips) for hair wash, facial with cucumber and face wash plus hot stone massage. It was a very good place to relax when you did not know what else to do.
Have not travel to vietnam for long time, planning my visit soon.
Thanks for the latest information.
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no if i refer to le duyen that would fall under hot toc, and there they DONT give any sexual services, just hairwash, facial and decent massage, quite good actually, but now the prices are not worth it,e ie 200ish tip 300-500..
Alright, thanks
Appreciated your effort in doing this write-up.
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if you still decide to go to le duyen then PLEASE still try to pay 200+200, there is no need to tip 300-500, i was quoting newb/carrot chop pricing, its uncessary tp pay that much
Word has it that I am just an empty barrel making the most noise, aim to brag in-order to cover my pathetic ego or trying to gain reputation for my future plan.
I had thought about this too. Why would I be so thick-skinned that after being ridicule, keep posting and bragging? Can't I just eat humble pie and stay away? The answer is NO, I can NOT stay away because sex forums are the only places I can lurk around to Brag and cover my inadequacies. And because of the terrible abuse I suffered, being sexually abused when I am young, I have inferior ego and feel a need to brag till i dont know my limit.
The picture below best illustrate me
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I distinctly remeber i was one of the first ones to post abt website girls tho i didnt reveal WHICH website, u guys were still using banhmy etc...and here is something for you consideration, im not interested in correcting or teaching you a better technique, BUT you technique and method in contacting these girls is SHIT!!! Thats why you have doubts, im assuming its based on bait and switch and low turn up rates..perfomance right?
As a statistic, my web girls its like 1/20 is the wrong girl, 1/50 dont turn up...and 1/10 perform inadequately, all which i have a solution should it happen and part of the problem is that you cant READ, you cant speak, and frankly you dont have any common sense...i mean why is that i needed to point out that tipping a girl who is a result of a bait and switch or from over photo shopping is a BAD idea.
Indeed I did learn of these websites from a post that you made over in ISG. I can't remember how I got the actual website addresses, maybe someone sent me via PM. Dude I explicitly ASKED you to correct my method. I had some super shit luck early on with website girls, getting the bait and switch, so maybe my process was based on that experience. So yeah if it's shit, then be my guest and improve it. (funny, you must have been looking at that process of mine all this time with steam coming out your ears about it, dying to correct it. But yeah man, please please, correct it! I for one very much look forward to hearing about your way, I know you will have some interesting ideas that didn't occur to me, and that will be one of the cool type of posts I love to read here, hopefully you can reduce your use of the word 'idiot' in that one )
About the tipping, no I think you are right if it's bait and switch or over-photoshop, then it's not right to tip them. But in those ads they always have a flower or something covering the face. If you go there and the real girl from the ad does show up, but you see her and think No Way cuz her face is not like you imagined her, just too different from what you imagined and not your type, or not attractive to you, well, what did she do wrong? Similarly if she is older than expected, and the ad said nothing about age, she did nothing wrong, that's on you for not checking how old she is. That flower-face element of chance is something we should also bear some burden for. And I think I would in that case pretend I suddenly had to be elsewhere, apologize, and give small tip ( like 100).
nice sharing bro...i am heading there on 19 Dec. Hope i can locate this nice massage place..:P and btw chill guys..u two are the seniors here so it good that the info sharing is mutual and peace..hehe
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Originally Posted by TomMAffolter
When you go to a massage parlour, you will further be given more choices of rooms, this is divided in phong thuong (standard, VIP and Super VIP)
Standard 1hr duration
This means you go into a locker room, you will eb given a key into which you put your clothes, make sure you do use the waterproof bag provided and bring you valuable WITH you dont leave them in the locker. You can then use the communal showers, steamroom, sauna etc, after which you will be taken into a small walled private cubicle where a girl of your choosing ie you have requested her by number or a girl that has been allocated to you by rotation will service you. There is NO fishbowls in which you can observe and choose your girl, HOWEVER tehre is a right of refusal, ie you can rejects your girl and ask for another, they allow this 2-3times before they get annoyed. If you find noone suitable then just pay the ticket and leave. If you find a girl of your liking then it well be a hj or bj finish depending on the category of massage place as described in another post, ie a bj place then ALL girls will only provide bj, a massage hj then ALL girls will only provide hj. The cost for this ticket is 70-250k depending on how luxurious the massage parlour is, and the tip to the girl will be (100) 150-200 depending on whether its hj/bj and how luxerious/quality of the girls
VIP 90min duration
This means you enter a room that has a private bathtub, private steamroom etc, here after using the steamroom, again based on your own selection or by rotation, your girls will BATHE you, ie she will run the bathtub then prceed to bath you like you would bath a child ie lather you up and wsh your down washing your hair, however she will be doing this FULLY CLOTHED. Its not like in thailand where at some soapy massages the girls will get naked and join you in the tub naked whilst they bathe you, neither is it like in hanoi where some places the girls wear a bikini and join you in the tub. However i am AWARE of ONE place in hcmc where the girls can join you in the bathe tub however this joining style is more expensive than your standard vip room (450k+450k). The cost of a vip room is 100-500k again depending on how luxurious the massage parlour is the tip to teh girls will generally be the same as the ticket you purchased ie (150-500k), again as per what i mention, what the girl does as a extra ie hj or bj will depend on the type of massage parlour you choose. However its more likely you will get a bj or even a fj (though this is uncommon), and the better loooking girls get allocated by rotation to vip rooms rather than your standard rooms. In my experience i see very little reason to ask for a vip room as i personally know which pretty girls to request and that i find the whole experience of a girl bathing me very unsexual, and even though the duration is suppsedly 90mins after 60min massage the girl stops and just sits there talking with you for the extra 30min
Super vip 2hr duration
This is the same as VIP only you get 2 girls massageing you from what i am told, i personally have not tried this option. cost 500k+, with a corresponding matching tip to each girl
Again this is for informative purposes only, please dont pm me asking for addresses. I am here so people dont overpay and spoil the market, if you want to try these places, please go out and explore and spend you money trying out places (thats what i do), if you find something of note and you want to swap with me, and if its something i already dont know then we can deal
OR Please pm Hoian the self proclaimed expert in hcmc
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firstly im not a senior, until recently i was zapped in the red according to some im a impoverished wananbe pimp who can only afford drugged hiv infested prostitutes so dont put me in the same category as esteemed Hoian...secondly on a personal note you mentions sharing is MUTUAL sharing, that implies sharing by two or more parties....given that you were in vn in JULY WHERE is your MUTUAL sharing...or is this a case of MUTUAL for otehrs but not for yourself....now u can then reply how u didnt do much blah blha...but im sure your "didnt do much" FR is of more value that what you posted above.
my 2 cents if you take offense please ignore (the standard singaporean caveat)
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ong gia nay mac cuoi qua..
I have never claimed to be any expert on VN or tv. These are words that you put in my mouth to discredit me. Obviously u glossed over some of my posts that requested to learn tv together with the senior bros here. You may find my presence here a threat to your pimping business although countless times I have said that I am not in the pimping biz like u. Discerning readers will notice that in ALL your descriptions abt spa outlets etc u have conveniently left out the ACTUAL NAMES and ADDRESSES of the places described. They have to PM you for more info and u will ask for money discretely. Le Duyen? Even a student knows that joint... they even advertise on Youtube. Once in the past, you even scammed some newbies by pointing them to a non-existent District so that they will get lost and probably slaughtered... that's cruel, man. I guess you have a beef with me because I exposed all your scams.
I have never been to VN, cannot speak tv. All I know is from Youtube & Google. Kindly update the "resume" that you created for me. LOL!
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...i unlike Hoian am not a vietnam expert i learn vietnamese street style...
My apology if I have not done well. I will try to make it good this time as HCMC itself to me is still pretty new to me.
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as has been constantly mentioned by others, some people are intersted in ncie places to eat, etc etc so the fact you went with a spouse does not remove the ability to post something worthwhile..seems like a empty excuse to me..what unless all u did was stay in hotel room bonk and order room service
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My apology if I have not done well. I will try to make it good this time as HCMC itself to me is still pretty new to me.
do not listen to TomMAffolter's stupid rantings...he is my asshole brother mutantchicken's clone who is a pathetic okt trying to con newbies...be wary...he is worse than the toad...
If you are heading for le duyen or massage, dun need to worry about the address, just go to Hurricane88 signature, all address are there.
I find it very helpful, thanks to those who help compile this list, so far dun think anyone pay for such address
I think TomMAffolter price guideline for massage is very useful too.
Discerning readers will notice that in ALL your descriptions abt spa outlets etc u have conveniently left out the ACTUAL NAMES and ADDRESSES of the places described. They have to PM you for more info and u will ask for money discretely. Le Duyen?
All these tit-for-tat is getting rather tiring, not just for me but for other readers as well. Here... I will just summarise it:
1) Tom-watever is a clone of mutantchicken, a notorious pimp who has been banned from this forum for scamming.
2) He will deceive you by sounding helpful by giving a bit of info...(called "baiting") and when u fall for it by sending him a PM, that's when he will lead u on a merry-go-round until money is handed to him.
3) He has a score to settle with me because I exposed all his scams. He even thinks I am a pimp out to snatch his business. But here's the thing, if anyone on this forum has ever received a PM from me asking for $$$, pls speak up now. I will self-ban myself from this forum.
I know you will always want to have your last say, so go ahead.
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... if someone was to contact me then you should be very aware that there will be a request for equivalent value ($$$)...to make it very clear, when people contact me the first thing i ask is do they have...money....
06-12-2015, 09:05 AM
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Apologies if I had not done so but the coming trip it will be different .. man's trip
