Who cheated who.

[barlim21]

I seldom post much and talk about things here. Read alot only.

But after reading one of our bro's story about being cheat by a viet gal, I felt the need to share my story a bit.

I'm definitely not a newbie in this area of things. Had my fare share of FLs and WLs, KTVs and etc etc. But my recent ventures to a KTV sort of made me re-think whether we are always the victims.

I recently had my yearly KTV session with a bunch of NS-mates. I'm a player lah, so I usually try to only get 1 gal and build the relationship there for further post KTV activities. On my recent outings, I managed to snag one viet gal who wasn't fantastic but was really cute, pretty enough and loving kind. The type that really can become wife kind. My whole affair lasted only 4-5 days though.

The 1st outing was the typical "meet & greet" session at the KTV
Throughout the session was the usual hug and TCSS, then suddenly early in the night tell me had to go off because heard got raid coming. I just gave her the dues so as not to spoil the "relationship" first. Later found out, false alarm but my gal went back liao so I sat at the KTV super sian. In the I was super sian because I was one of the few that left the place empty handed. But she did sms me while I was still at the KTV to continue our "relationship" though, saying she sorry and all. Had the typical sms back and forth game. As this hunter was trying to snag his prey. In the end, I was lucky since I had the next day off so decided to ask her out for lunch.

2nd Outing (lunch next day):
Met her near her place for lunch with her good friend, who was way younger than her so I'm assuming she's the "big" sister taking care of her pack. The only cost i got from the whole outing was parking and a $40+ dollar lunch for 3 which isn't so bad. Throughout the lunch date she kept hugging and holding me like we were practically married. I was thinking to myself that this hunt not be as difficult as I thought. Eventually sent them back after lunch, but we continued our smses like lovers.

3rd Outing (Supper after a KTV session at another place on the same day.)
Pick her up with her friends to join me and my mates for supper. All of them teasing and poking fun at me that found a wife liao because of the way she treated me. Taking care of me and all. Nothing much to say about this, except send her back after that. Continued our smses throughout the next 2 days until her card no money (she top up herself).

4th Outing (A date with her before meeting my mates at the KTV she works in.)
Met her a in the evening early, we decided to go nearby hotel to get some "rest". I was actually really in need of rest also since I only had 2hrs sleep the whole time. Obviously, it wasn't totally rest in the hotel but that's an FR so nothing about it will be here. This was the outing that started to get me thinking that she might be in this for real and that this gal might be thinking I'm her life-partner liao. That thought came before the hotel. After the hotel session, it just re-assured that though even more because the whole session was just super GFE. Then we headed over to the KTV to meet my mates, she decided not to work that night already so only came to sit with me the whole time and take care of me (didn't want to let me drink also). Throughout the night, my mates were like making fun of me lah. Saluting me for snagging her so bloody fast lah. But at the back of my mind I was worried that, I think what would happen if she knew I'm already taken. Sad to say, like some drama movie she found out I had a "gf" (in truth I have a OC). It was also close to closing time liao then I suddenly felt her whole character change like she was dealt a really devastating blow. I'm good at picking up peoples signals and to me i could tell she was really affected by this. In the end, I sent her back as per norm and could clearly feel her defeated sadness in the car. As i dropped her off she told me she like me and tell me go to my gf. I tried to really soften the blow for her and continued sms'ing her to soften everything, but in the end it ended really sad.

Aftermath:
I felt really horrible for the rest of the night at supper with my mates. I felt really bad that I really shattered somebody's hopes in love. One of them related that when viet gals really like you, they really treat you well like king. (That didn't help.) Others just told me to forget it, easier this way. One thing i left out was that she was due to head back a few days later as well. Then won't be back in SG till 2 months later. To a true player, that would have been the best ending as the girl ownself break it off. Since already got the session and hardly paid much besides 2 meals of about $40+. But in truth I'm a softie, and I cannot bare to know that I may have really broken a girl's heart. I haven't heard from her since.

I just wanted to share this out with everybody, cos I'm really feeling bad for hurting someone who really cared. I've had such "affairs" before but the gal knew about things and the endings were amicable ones. Nothing quite as sad as this. I'm not here to brag or anything, but I guess I'm here to pour it out. I'm still wondering after reading some other bro's issues whether I'm the victim or she is the victim

[okinzuka]

Have you got the feeling that u r being fished by her then vice versa. They are good in this. When I noe my gal, I am also being treated like a king. She can go with me on a Friday nite when it is the busiest time of the week to join me and my friends for a drink. I also thought she really have feeling for me. You read my thread the rest I dun wan to say alr. Too many experiences now bind our own judgement. Now I dun noe who is really good to you and who is really a good con artist.

[barlim21]

Originally Posted by okinzuka

Have you got the feeling that u r being fished by her then vice versa. They are good in this. When I noe my gal, I am also being treated like a king. She can go with me on a Friday nite when it is the busiest time of the week to join me and my friends for a drink. I also thought she really have feeling for me. You read my thread the rest I dun wan to say alr. Too many experiences now bind our own judgement. Now I dun noe who is really good to you and who is really a good con artist.

Bro, I did read your thread. haha

But i didn't wanna Hijack your thread.

The thing is I hardly spent anything on her. I got what i wanted and I should be happy, but something is nagging at me that she is really broken hearted.

It would have been easier if she was out to con me, cos I would know she wanted to con me then the exchanges would have been material transactions at least. Had done this with a few others already, but usually PRC.

[NewandLost]

she was setting you up for FOC braddah. Within a span of a week you KC yourself.

[cablesnwires]

Originally Posted by NewandLost

she was setting you up for FOC braddah. Within a span of a week you KC yourself.

Bro NAL,

I beg to differ. Looking at the thread, I can see that he is in control of the whole situation. Never once did he say he missed her, it's just that he felt he might have just broken someone's else heart. It didn't affect him like some of the brothers here.

Having said that, while I can understand how TS feels, it is really a jungle out there. The predator will and can never feel pity for their prey. So, TS, just remember this, if you really fell head over heels over another girl, and she broke your heart, do you really think she will give a hoot over how you feel?

Think about it...

[DO_YOU_BJ]

Originally Posted by cablesnwires

Bro NAL,

I beg to differ. Looking at the thread, I can see that he is in control of the whole situation. Never once did he say he missed her, it's just that he felt he might have just broken someone's else heart. It didn't affect him like some of the brothers here.

Having said that, while I can understand how TS feels, it is really a jungle out there. The predator will and can never feel pity for their prey. So, TS, just remember this, if you really fell head over heels over another girl, and she broke your heart, do you really think she will give a hoot over how you feel?

Think about it...

Bro C&W, I too beg to differ, but to you.
Read what he posted...
He's claims to be a player, now feel that he's broken someone's heart.
The player's handbook, once makan, all is forgotten and no slightest bit of remorse.
Once remorse sets in, you have already fallen from the ranks of a player.
He felt terrible blah blah...this already equates to emotional attachment, if so, bro N&L is not wrong, though not deeply entrenched, the initial stages of KC can be felt by just reading from his post.

[colins]

Well, bro barlim21, do you feel that she is different from the rest of your other affairs? Lotsa comparisons in your summary. I guess one very important factor causing your feelings for her is that you were practically with her everyday. A player usually does that, cos you would want to emulsify your influence into her life as much as possible within the shortest span of time. But it works both ways. If you are not stable enough, she'll get into your life and it becomes hard to tear her out.

Put it this way, once you start the KC process, at least one side is destined to get hurt. If you are lucky, she's the one down. If you aren't, you're the one down. If both unlucky, both also down. No future what. I think in your case, she'll be up and going in no time bro. So, its time for you to do so as well.

[Hurricane88]

Neither is a victim yet...now that she knew you have gf...you better dun get involved with her anymore...she will play you till your life is so miserable that you din know what mess you got yourself in...a few scenarios...1) you and your gf will split after she kc you deep deep...2) she accepts you have gf and still continue with you but will take you as a robert carrot...in the former you will also have to content that she is still a WL..lots of problems and decisions both of you have to make which alot had been written on this topic...in the latter case then any amount of money is not going to be enough because she knew there is no future with you...3) of course if she chose to end the relationship which was just a few days old then you escaped this punishment... Have you ever thought that you are actually cheating on your sin gf...and you felt is ok to cheat.. just my 2 cents worth.

[BKnight]

Originally Posted by barlim21

But in truth I'm a softie, and I cannot bare to know that I may have really broken a girl's heart. I haven't heard from her since.

I just wanted to share this out with everybody, cos I'm really feeling bad for hurting someone who really cared. I've had such "affairs" before but the gal knew about things and the endings were amicable ones. Nothing quite as sad as this..........whether I'm the victim or she is the victim

nobody dump anybody here and no victim yet

naturally she will feel down because she lost her source of potential future compensation. It's actually her inferiorities that are making her feel bad and not the news of you’re taken (have a girlfriend). No worries, she will be fully recovered from this in the shortest time.

our goal when come out to play at all times should be to maintain our positions of power by keeping the women chasing after our affection instead of us chasing them. please remember that as soon as you give up that power, you will begin to lose control of other aspects of the game as well and thats when you will ask who is the victim here...cheers

[cablesnwires]

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

Bro C&W, I too beg to differ, but to you.
Read what he posted...
He's claims to be a player, now feel that he's broken someone's heart.
The player's handbook, once makan, all is forgotten and no slightest bit of remorse.
Once remorse sets in, you have already fallen from the ranks of a player.
He felt terrible blah blah...this already equates to emotional attachment, if so, bro N&L is not wrong, though not deeply entrenched, the initial stages of KC can be felt by just reading from his post.

Haha... I re-read what the TS had written, and I still feel that it is not a case of self KC-ed. I would rather say he is thinking aloud... I'm sure he is able to move on from there.

I'll give him the benefit of the doubt.

Well, I do agree with you one thing. Leave the emotions behind if you want to play, else better stay at home and be a good man.

[barlim21]

I don't think I'm an angel. I'm definitely a scum, because small head sometimes control me too much.

Frankly, I'm quite glad it ended "smoothly" on my end. (ZAP this scum! HAHA)

Don't get mistaken. I'm not KC'd. Can say that I'm quite immune and slightly amoral. Just felt bad if I really did break her heart.

I'm already out on the hunt of another prey liao. Sigh, but I guess I never really felt like i broken someones heart that bad before (unless acting). So was really thinking about it that's all.

Further more I definitely have no intention of going back and further, that would be suicidal. Thanks for the responses bro.

[cablesnwires]

Originally Posted by barlim21

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Frankly, I'm quite glad it ended "smoothly" on my end. (ZAP this scum! HAHA)

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Haha.... and I got zapped for reading your post twice...

[barlim21]

Paiseh bro. Hope it wasn't because of me. Appreciate the advice and read.

Originally Posted by cablesnwires

Haha.... and I got zapped for reading your post twice...

[joew2005]

It takes 2 hands 2 clap .....
No man or woman k realli be said 2 be saint on tis planet !!

[goodpartner]

Originally Posted by BKnight

our goal when come out to play at all times should be to maintain our positions of power by keeping the women chasing after our affection instead of us chasing them. please remember that as soon as you give up that power, you will begin to lose control of other aspects of the game as well and thats when you will ask who is the victim here...cheers

Originally Posted by DO_YOU_BJ

The player's handbook, once makan, all is forgotten and no slightest bit of remorse.
Once remorse sets in, you have already fallen from the ranks of a player.
He felt terrible blah blah...this already equates to emotional attachment....

Any player bro care to start a thread on this very topic on "Player Handbook"?

Geez... I thought I'm a player until I read this thread.
I do feel for them once they discover they've been taken.

Given similar "guilt" feeling when I multiple-timing and breaking hearts eventually, I've got a long way to go raising up to that rank...LoL.

I used to bluff my target saying I'm single and available w/o any "gf" - that seems to be a very common pre-requisite in order to get a bite, else no game liao...

For bros who even have OC, I guess there'll be lesser chance if that's being declared onset. Unless there are more tricks I'll love to read about in that handbook