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Old 21-08-2014, 02:10 PM
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Thumbs up MH17 was downed by Ukrainian MiG-29 - military experts

An honorable member of the Coffee Shop Has Just Posted the Following:

MH17 could not be shot down by Buk-M1 as there was no electromagnetic radiation from the missile complex being registered. There was no thick plume or white condensation of 10-35 kilometers from the earth, which lasts for several minutes after launch.

A surface-to-air missile, explodes not inside the plane, but near it, up to 100 meters away. The detonation disperses fragments which puncture the fuselage of an aircraft, but given the size of the MH17 Boeing-777 (73 meters long), it can not lead to the break-up of the aircraft into separate parts.

These missiles have a proximity fuse so fragments would fly all around and strike the entire fuselage of the aircraft, not just the cockpit. These missiles are also equipped with heat seekers that target the most heated part of the aircraft, i.e. the engines but the crashed Boeing had the cockpit destroyed. The death of the crew and the depressurization of the cockpit made the Boeing spin instantly, and the plane fell apart.

Edges of the cockpit fuselage were bent outwards. This indicates an explosion that occurred inside the plane, which is impossible if MH-17 had been shot down by a missile. Parts of the aircraft fuselage was dotted with shrapnel-like, machine gun-like holes suggesting MH-17 was shot down by a fighter jet's cannon.

Residents of the Donetsk region confirmed the presence of another aircraft in the sky over where the catastrophe occurred. At the time, radar stations of the Russian Defense Ministry registered another aircraft, supposedly a Su-25 which can be equipped with air-to-air missiles with a range of 12 km. The unidentified aircraft approached the airliner at a distance of 3 to 5 km and then continued to patrol the crash site.

However, the Su-25 could not reach the altitude of 10,300 meters and strike the Boeing. Radars might show MiG-29 as a Su-25, as the planes have similar reflective surface area. The altitude limit for MiG-29 is 18,013 meters and the Su-25 does not have enough acceleration due to its maximum speed of 975 kph, so it can not catch up with a Boeing-777, and follow it at a distance of 58 kilometers at a speed of 900 kilometers per hour and at an altitude of 10 km. A Mig-29 can reach of 2000 kph and the Ukrainian Air Force has MiG-29s based near Kiev and in Ivano-Frankivsk.


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