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Old 22-02-2024, 10:37 AM
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I read bros stories… can tell most are suffering… and most importantly all of us know that there won’t be any good ending.

Why not man up for once in your life? Make a decision, stick to it. Sure there will be withdrawal symptoms because our experience with the ML is in fact an addiction. And have faith, like all addictions, once over, you definitely feel better.

I have been through this process. My method is to face it and not escape. When she msg me, i answered normally. When she wants to see me, i am firm to say no. Now she has given up, and i have no desire to see her anymore.
I not man enough, bro
I see it wasn't easy for you at that stage as well, i guess
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Old 22-02-2024, 10:41 AM
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I read bros stories… can tell most are suffering… and most importantly all of us know that there won’t be any good ending.

Why not man up for once in your life? Make a decision, stick to it. Sure there will be withdrawal symptoms because our experience with the ML is in fact an addiction. And have faith, like all addictions, once over, you definitely feel better.

I have been through this process. My method is to face it and not escape. When she msg me, i answered normally. When she wants to see me, i am firm to say no. Now she has given up, and i have no desire to see her anymore.
That also a good method
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Old 22-02-2024, 10:54 AM
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I not man enough, bro
I see it wasn't easy for you at that stage as well, i guess
Yup, not easy for anyone, not just me.

Maybe right now you still can manage the relationship and not tired enough for you haha..

I was at the brink of breaking, no choice to man up, if not I would go crazy maybe?
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Old 22-02-2024, 11:05 AM
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Re: Ever fall in love with a massage girl

Why nobody put up a list of ladies that played KC games with customers so as to prevent more bros from getting hurt. I can see many kena fooled and still protecting their ladies.

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Old 22-02-2024, 11:17 AM
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Why nobody put up a list of ladies that played KC games with customers so as to prevent more bros from getting hurt. I can see many kena fooled and still protecting their ladies.
It is that perennial argument that only the MLs are playing KC games, and the chiongsters are naive teens waiting to be harvested. While I think this game is not for the weak willed (me included), it is still a tango and takes two to dance.
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Re: Ever fall in love with a massage girl

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It is that perennial argument that only the MLs are playing KC games, and the chiongsters are naive teens waiting to be harvested. While I think this game is not for the weak willed (me included), it is still a tango and takes two to dance.
Most of the time is the men trying to be white Knight thinking doing the lady some favour in return can get free fuck. Only some of them.
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Old 22-02-2024, 11:45 AM
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I read bros stories… can tell most are suffering… and most importantly all of us know that there won’t be any good ending.

Why not man up for once in your life? Make a decision, stick to it. Sure there will be withdrawal symptoms because our experience with the ML is in fact an addiction. And have faith, like all addictions, once over, you definitely feel better.
this was not a kind statement- "man up for once in your life" and not something to throw at an injured bro with injuries and scars. I get the tough love stuff, but it works only when the person is ready.
I saw your list of why break why not break. I think, the ML was not the one who challenged your sanity, at least not much.

Some may never meet the one who push them over the edge. Some will.
Different strokes different folks.
We are talking about emotions, some are more committed, some are not. Some are cheaters, some are going to faithful no matter the cost.

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If you say you have chiong for a long time, never been kc, or been kc and didn't lose out, or been kc and only had a little bit of a effect, maybe you just haven't met the one that will do it for you. Might not be your sense of logic and control that helped you through. For some other bros, as many here will say, they met that one, and then their world changed.

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let's never discount how emotions can be devastating and both healing. So when you find yourself in love, its that great feeling, the world feels great. And when you are in the rut over someone who does not deserve your love, the world seems like a shitty place. People do what people do, and emotions can really make or break a person. Crimes of passion, crimes of hate, people killing themselves because they are depressed, wronged, cheated on, its not something you can just say, man up, and the healing starts.

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Old 22-02-2024, 11:47 AM
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Re: Ever fall in love with a massage girl

Having to hear all the broken heart stories, actually is there any happy ending?
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Old 22-02-2024, 12:00 PM
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Having to hear all the broken heart stories, actually is there any happy ending?
bro it depends doesn't it?

what is a happy ending? wasn't the magical feeling the ending? the special one?

or wanting to keep it, always maintain it that way, the dream?

even in marriage, a big proportion of women flirt, cheat, sleep with other men. that's not a happy ending.

even if this girl finally appears to settle down with you, as mine did, she can change her mind in a flash.

let me try to lighten it up with where I am. So today my "FB", let's just call her that, video called me, show me herself in her shower, in her room. All rosy right? And she says she's horny, shows me she's all shaved below, and wants to meet up in a few days.
But let's look back at the grief she gave me in Dec/Jan.
I planned an expensive christmas early dinner on the 16th Dec with her because I was going to be very busy for work. Just a week ago, we had gone to the hotels for a romp, that was great. She went to the casino day on the 19th(without telling me), herself met a man. Went out with the man, again on the 23th. That day I was doing endoscopy, and I didn't want her to lose a day of work or take leave, so I went myself. But she went to meet this man at the casino and didn't cancel her leave as I told her to. He fetched her there, spend the whole day and fetched her back.
Then 26th, she breaks up with me says there is no more feeling. We fight, quarrel, 31th she ghost me, during 1130pm-130am because she is at the countdown with the fucker.
2th Jan I met her to discuss the issues, she tells me to fuck off then goes meet this man again with the fucker fetching her to the casino and back.
6th she comes crawling back. Between 19th Dec and 2th Jan, over approx 3 weeks she met that fucker 6 times.

Now we are here. Is that a happy ending? No. Is it ideal? No. Can I walk away? I have wanted to for a long time.
She will hold it against me because I made her pregnant before and had to abort.
Life is complicated bro. Different strokes different folks.
Again, if you can walk away, damn it, please do. If you can't, lan lan. Suck it up, its your life. Do whatever it takes to get to the next day.

Same thing I said in the cheating spouse thread, because to me, all women cheat, that's my experience.

I think all the bros suffering can relate to this pain pleasure paradigm, and why the pleasure outweighs the pain. If you get the point the pain outweighs the pleasure, you will do what you do.
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Old 22-02-2024, 12:39 PM
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Why nobody put up a list of ladies that played KC games with customers so as to prevent more bros from getting hurt. I can see many kena fooled and still protecting their ladies.
I think there's really alot. Its only which MLs u have chemistry and really fall in love with ? Sometimes its your own heart n emotions that you cant really control...
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Old 22-02-2024, 12:40 PM
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Having to hear all the broken heart stories, actually is there any happy ending?
Bro.. if u are in a relationship with someone, what do you think.. happy ending as in fairy tale ending?
Or intitmate kind of happy ending?
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Old 22-02-2024, 12:47 PM
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bro it depends doesn't it?

what is a happy ending? wasn't the magical feeling the ending? the special one?

or wanting to keep it, always maintain it that way, the dream?

even in marriage, a big proportion of women flirt, cheat, sleep with other men. that's not a happy ending.

even if this girl finally appears to settle down with you, as mine did, she can change her mind in a flash.

let me try to lighten it up with where I am. So today my "FB", let's just call her that, video called me, show me herself in her shower, in her room. All rosy right? And she says she's horny, shows me she's all shaved below, and wants to meet up in a few days.
But let's look back at the grief she gave me in Dec/Jan.
I planned an expensive christmas early dinner on the 16th Dec with her because I was going to be very busy for work. Just a week ago, we had gone to the hotels for a romp, that was great. She went to the casino day on the 19th(without telling me), herself met a man. Went out with the man, again on the 23th. That day I was doing endoscopy, and I didn't want her to lose a day of work or take leave, so I went myself. But she went to meet this man at the casino and didn't cancel her leave as I told her to. He fetched her there, spend the whole day and fetched her back.
Then 26th, she breaks up with me says there is no more feeling. We fight, quarrel, 31th she ghost me, during 1130-130pm because she is at the countdown with the fucker.
2th Jan I met her to discuss the issues, she tells me to fuck off then goes meet this man again with the fucker fetching her to the casino and back.
6th she comes crawling back. Between 19th Dec and 2th Jan, over approx 3 weeks she met that fucker 6 times.

Now we are here. Is that a happy ending? No. Is it ideal? No. Can I walk away? I have wanted to for a long time.
She will hold it against me because I made her pregnant before and had to abort.
Life is complicated bro. Different strokes different folks.
Again, if you can walk away, damn it, please do. If you can't, lan lan. Suck it up, its your life. Do whatever it takes to get to the next day.

Same thing I said in the cheating spouse thread, because to me, all women cheat, that's my experience.

I think all the bros suffering can relate to this pain pleasure paradigm, and why the pleasure outweighs the pain. If you get the point the pain outweighs the pleasure, you will do what you do.
Totally can relate this bro. And i rmb u mentioned she went radio silence . Mime didnt pickup but phone is still on. Made me worried like zzzz.

This sentence really gets me.
Pleasure > pain.
YEs it is. Thats why im still holding on..
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Having to hear all the broken heart stories, actually is there any happy ending?
Trying to take an objective view of your situation, your happy ending would be to make things up with your wife. Hope she forgives you and life goes on. Or another version is that you divorce and then hope to 修成正果 with your ML. There will be no happy outcome whereby you get to keep your marriage and your ML. For married men, less prospect of happy ending.

I do know of this ML whom I visited before. She came to SG with her cousin. A damn chio and demure lady. Married her accountant or auditor customer. Has a kid and became PR. That story is probably rare.
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I totally agree with u on this ! So im actually sitting on the fence.
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Sighhhh, but can't just let it go like this..

The "breakup" is not play play kind.. although i am together with her for a few months only... but everything adds up. I told her i cannot fully commit to her and she's well aware..but i guess you are right. There's transactional feel involved. Idm just bao-ing her. End of the day, question is.. worth ?

Could be telling all bros to be careful and all, but when this shit happens to ownself, it's really tough 😕

Hope your new found love will be a lasting one bro..
Because you had to keep investing in her, you don't really get the full experience. If you got one that you don't need to keep paying, you will know how it truly feels like when you need to "breakup". If she didn't have that number of kids and burden in the family, I would try to accept her, but that is not the case.

Now of course I will spend my effort to build my new relationship. But sometimes it is really difficult not to think of my ML. The feel from that amount of time we had together so often really hits hard.
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Why nobody put up a list of ladies that played KC games with customers so as to prevent more bros from getting hurt. I can see many kena fooled and still protecting their ladies.
The point is when we picked those that did not want to play the KC game and successfully build a relationship with her, this happens. I don't think it is that easy to start with these kind of MLs cuz they didn't want to do it.
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