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Old 15-11-2014, 03:40 PM
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Mayday mayday LZ too hot
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Re: Danshui (DS) Recommendations

I'm scheduled to party with a Canadian and a Singaporean friend in DS Legend Dynasty KTV tonight

but the Singaporean friend was arrested in ChangPing (not Danshui) so my Canadian friend is visiting him in the shenzhen detention barrack with a translator to try get him out.

He was caught ordering an escort girl to his hotel room in CP.
We suspect that escort girl could be a policewoman, set out to entrap him

Anyway, I'm stuck in DS now with a KTV room all to myself. Feels silly to party alone. Anyone wanna come join me? Pls PM me with your wechat or mobile number
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Old 15-11-2014, 04:41 PM
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Please chiong safely in DS as i have also seen quite a few fierce looking Local Gang members during my trip.
Haha I know what you mean.

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I'm scheduled to party with a Canadian and a Singaporean friend in DS Legend Dynasty KTV tonight.

but the Singaporean friend was arrested in ChangPing (not Danshui) so my Canadian friend is visiting him in the shenzhen detention barrack with a translator to try get him out.

He was caught ordering an escort girl to his hotel room in CP.
We suspect that escort girl could be a policewoman, set out to entrap him.
Wow this Singaporean sibei sway leh!
Good luck getting help from our "HOME Team" in Guangzhou!

Transfer to Shenzhen damn hard to settle liao.
If still in Changping Station still can buy your way out.

The first 2 hours is damn critical and don't play the time dragging game.
Negotiate tactfully and call your reinforcements if any (not HOME Team hor).

Nowadays cannot anyhow screw any chickens from unreliable sources.
You need to exchange personal info between both parties for safety precautions.

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Mayday mayday LZ too hot
Abort mission! Abort mission!
Taking enemy fire!
I think cheongsters must learn how to fight "guerilla warfare" these days.
If LZ too hot in one city than try another nearby LZ.
You'll be surprised that some LZs have MRT Stations and Airports on their door step!

Shenzhen City
Zhuhai City
Tanzhou Town
Huizhou City
Danshui Town
Guangzhou City
Foshan City

If further out will be Qingyuan City, Xiamen City, Kunming City, etc.
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Old 15-11-2014, 05:35 PM
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Re: Danshui (DS) Recommendations

Latest update, my Canadian friend managed to secure our Singaporean's friend release from the Shenzhen Detention Barracks.

I'm hoping that he would share more details on how he managed to do that soon.

Another Veteran cheongster mentioned that if you are caught on the spot, try to offer 10,000rmb as bribe to get released. If you wait till you are delivered to the detention place, the bribe amount will have to be tripled = 30,000rmb. Any bro can verify about this?

Note, our SG bro is entrapped in ChangPing, not Danshui.
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Old 15-11-2014, 05:58 PM
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Re: Danshui (DS) Recommendations

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Latest update, my Canadian friend managed to secure our Singaporean's friend release from the Shenzhen Detention Barracks.

I'm hoping that he would share more details on how he managed to do that soon.

Another Veteran cheongster mentioned that if you are caught on the spot, try to offer 10,000rmb as bribe to get released. If you wait till you are delivered to the detention place, the bribe amount will have to be tripled = 30,000rmb. Any bro can verify about this?

Note, our SG bro is entrapped in ChangPing, not Danshui.
Wow your posts just made sure I won't be going to CP for a very long time!

I just came back from one week in ZH and CP (spanning 2 weeks as I went for some sight seeing in other places too).

CP I called my regular BBS OKT contact... most of the ktv girls I know no longer there. Seriously now that I see your news, I am quite happy nothing happened to me. Just too scary. CP like what others reported, basically a dead town... really no point going there unless it is for old times sake to rest and relax. But food to me is still better for me than other parts of China.

ZH, I went KTV on mix K basis on a weekend. Jin Sha and Chang An club, both I saw about the same girls as I went back in Aug. A lot lesser girls and most who are working either scared to go work or got booked by previous customers (so say the tour agent I engaged). That weekend was suppose to be start of the Air Show, so hotel room very difficult to book. The hotel I staying in Hong Du even required girls to register and they seem very strict on it with a guard there sitting on the table just to stop people. The strange thing is Lotus road still a lot of girls giving you paper after 9pm.... one of the girls was very chio... at 300rmb a pop plus 30rmb transport. Again after reading your news, I was feeling lucky... No problem with KTV girls as I think safer....

One last thing to report. In the Jinsha ktv, my friend got a girl who was previously from CP Yihao. We had a chat and I asked her if Zhuhai KTV better or CP. And if got chance will she go back to CP... She said CP is much better and she will no doubt go back to CP if CP returns to its former glory. Her reasoning... in Zhuhai KTV, the cut that goes to the management is much higher. At 300rmb vs CP's 150rmb based on her 1300rmb price. Hence explain why Zhuhai's ST is so much higher proportionately...

And in CP, more generous customers (less demanding). I leave it to you to determine from which country.

Sad to say, mongering in China is getting tough...

Oh really one last piece of info. I was in Guilin on one of the nights at the hotels near the train station. After dark a lot of "mummies" standing on the street, maybe Guilin got action. I didn't explore as I was with someone. Maybe soon we will have a Events in Guilin thread....
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Old 15-11-2014, 11:37 PM
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Re: Danshui (DS) Recommendations

latest update on the arrest of a Singaporean bro last night in ChangPing.


What happened
the SG bro was staying at a Hotel in ChangPing famous for having the best sauna during CP's heydays, he found a pimp using the "search people nearby" function in Wechat and ordered a girl to his room.

Two GongAn policemen came banging on their door, one of them was carrying a video camera. they got the masterkey card from the hotel room which gave them access to his room. they arrested him and the girl. The two policemen wanted a bribe of 2000RMB each (total 4000rmb), our SG bro refused, thinking that the amount is ridiculous and decided to just follow them back and call for the help of Singapore Embassy. Back in the Shenzhen detention place, he called the SG embassy and it only offered to help call in a chinese lawyer on monday (it was friday night)


Desperate, he called our Canadian lawyer friend SER001 who can't really speak Chinese, so he went to the detention place with a translator.

Two police chiefs at the detention now demanded a total of 35,000rmb bribe (instead of the 4,000rmb bribe amount).
At first, our bro SER001 wanted to just walk away ~ but the police chiefs kept retaining him and invited him to counter-offer.

Our friend SER001 bargained it down to 16,000RMB + a 2-way ticket to Bangkok + accommodation sponsorship + vouchers for Nataree massage for the two police officers.
How the 16,000RMB cash was split?
7,000RMB each for the two police chief, and 1000RMB each for the two junior police officers that arrested our SG bro.
the two junior police officers were angry that they only got half of what they would have gotten

so they released our SG bro (after he spent one night in detention) and destroyed the video recordings and all paperwork related to the arrest.


Earlier i mentioned that i knew another SG bro who was caught 9 months ago, he didn't pay any bribe, there was no mention from the police officers that arrested him that a bribe would suffice. he spent 10 days in detention where he also met a Briton and an Indian who were arrested too.


in a nutshell, CP seems to have become a more dangerous place for sex activities than before.
Danshui, on the other hand, while being cautious, i can still see plenty of attractive looking women walking to work at Legend Dynasty KTV.

After securing our SG bro's release, he decided to return to Singapore right away, and bro SER001 came back to Danshui to hang out with me. I managed to transfer my KTV booking away, we had a japanese dinner and we went to join FGG and his group at room 111 on the third level of Legend Dynasty KTV. it was a bigger room and we see more prettier girls tonight


I met a very attractive mommy's assistant who was a former MM, she knows that i'm a regular in Legend and she tried pretty hard to charm me to give her ktv room bookings in future.

in FGG's KTV room, i see many managers walking, all inviting us to drink more, looks like they are trying hard to push the sales of hard liquor...


The rooms were all fully booked and i know of another group of friends went over to 金鼎 KTV instead.


btw, the party scene in DS is still on the cautious side. The managers and mamasans of Legend Dynasty had a staff meeting where they were told to advise their girls to be cautious and refrain from going out with customers or try to stick to only customers they can trust.


that's the situation for now.
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Two police chiefs at the detention now demanded a total of 35,000rmb bribe (instead of the 4,000rmb bribe amount).
Sigh.... wat a waste of 12000RMB.. I always believe tat whenever we in other ppl lands, we shd b humble n less stubborn, right or wrong,we can nv win the local authority.. only way is by using money to ensure ur safety.. hope a lesson learnt..
plz take care too n enjoy ur weekends, bro panado..
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Old 16-11-2014, 01:05 AM
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Sigh.... wat a waste of 12000RMB.. I always believe tat whenever we in other ppl lands, we shd b humble n less stubborn, right or wrong,we can nv win the local authority.. only way is by using money to ensure ur safety.. hope a lesson learnt..
plz take care too n enjoy ur weekends, bro panado..
last year i was also legally '' robbed'' by the mongolian goverment
every year the china-mongolian border is closed 3 days for the mongolian national day, but last year last minute the mongolian goverment last minute informed the china side they will close the border another further 2 days
as a result many foreigners doing visa runs had problems as their china visas
had ''overstayed'' because of the extra 2 days border closure
as a result the china side fined a record number of foreigners in china for overstaying their visas for 1 to 2 days
a total of 10 amercians, 15 british, 30 germans and others were fined sums from 500 rmb to 1500 rmb each
it smells fishy to me, it was obviously a conspiracy by the mongolian and china governments to legally ''rob'' foreigners's money in china
never trust the mongolians, they are bullshit people
thanks for sharing the changping incident , when i told the china immigration that it was not our fault ,it was because the mongolia border was closed the china psb would not listen..they said" you all have overstayed either pay the fine or go to jail''.... so we paid and were allowed to remain in china
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Old 16-11-2014, 01:12 AM
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Another Veteran cheongster mentioned that if you are caught on the spot, try to offer 10,000rmb as bribe to get released. If you wait till you are delivered to the detention place, the bribe amount will have to be tripled = 30,000rmb. Any bro can verify about this?
This offering of such a large amount from the beginning is rather unwise because it shows you're "rich" and they may fleece you for more.

Always negotiate tactfully and let them open price.
Pretend to be "poor" but willing to pay a fair amount.

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the SG bro was staying at a Hotel in ChangPing famous for having the best sauna during CP's heydays, he found a pimp using the "search people nearby" function in Wechat and ordered a girl to his room.
Not trying to sound unsympathetic but he is brewing for trouble by using unknown sources.

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they arrested him and the girl. The two policemen wanted a bribe of 2000RMB each (total 4000rmb), our SG bro refused, thinking that the amount is ridiculous and decided to just follow them back and call for the help of Singapore Embassy. Back in the Shenzhen detention place, he called the SG embassy and it only offered to help call in a chinese lawyer on monday (it was friday night)
When you're caught red handed it's either you pay or don't pay at all!
As mentioned before the first moments are the most critical.
Whether it was blackmailing or legit vice crackdown operation is not the issue.
These are real police and not criminals.
In times like this no idiot criminals will attempt to pose as fake police and get up lorry.
Identity checks between city borders are very stringent these days.

¥4000 for 2 persons was a good deal already.
The longer you drag the more hassle and costly!

Now you see how the HOME Team assists us?

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Desperate, he called our Canadian lawyer friend SER001 who can't really speak Chinese, so he went to the detention place with a translator.
Want to cut best deal must find professional "translator" aka negotiator.

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Two police chiefs at the detention now demanded a total of 35,000rmb bribe (instead of the 4,000rmb bribe amount).
At first, our bro SER001 wanted to just walk away ~ but the police chiefs kept retaining him and invited him to counter-offer.

Our friend SER001 bargained it down to 16,000RMB + a 2-way ticket to Bangkok + accommodation sponsorship + vouchers for Nataree massage for the two police officers.
How the 16,000RMB cash was split?
7,000RMB each for the two police chief, and 1000RMB each for the two junior police officers that arrested our SG bro.
the two junior police officers were angry that they only got half of what they would have gotten
Actually around ¥10,000 in total can settle.
Plus a set of cigarettes and cognac for each police officer as "friendship".
Your negotiator must know how to talk.
Use China man to talk to China man.

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Our friend SER001 bargained it down to 16,000RMB + a 2-way ticket to Bangkok + accommodation sponsorship + vouchers for Nataree massage for the two police officers.
Like that might as well throw in free tour guide service.

If in the beginning on the spot pay the ¥4000 bribe will save a lot of hassles.
I dare say ¥2000-3000 also can gao tim.
Again must know how to talk.

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Sigh.... wat a waste of 12000RMB.. I always believe tat whenever we in other ppl lands, we shd b humble n less stubborn, right or wrong, we can nv win the local authority.. only way is by using money to ensure ur safety.. hope a lesson learnt..
Hello it's ¥16,000 plus BKK Return Air Tickets + Hotel Package for 2 pax hor!

For you I don't think you'll even proceed to phase two (police station) because you're very street smart and tactful.
First of all lan lan as caught red handed.
All they want is money, just settle on the spot and get the hell out of the hotel!
If it was me I'll pretend to be "poor" and say my available cash is for buying air tickets the next day but willing to give to them as go back police station also waste their time. Let's be friends, Gong An kor kor.

Counter half from whatever price they open and slowly work your way up if not willing to relent.
End of the day is how you talk.
Talk nicely as you're the criminal not the police!
Acting tough only worsens the situation.
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last year i was also legally '' robbed'' by the mongolian goverment

when i told the china immigration that it was not our fault, it was because the mongolia border was closed the china psb would not listen..they said" you all have overstayed either pay the fine or go to jail''.... so we paid and were allowed to remain in china
Not say I want to say you.
You also very funny leh.

China not just have only one border with a certain country.
You can use other borders or take a plane to another country for visa run purposes or change your itinenary.

It's like going to a Casino.
Observe the house rules if buay song of the rules then don't step in.
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Not say I want to say you.
You also very funny leh.

China not just have only one border with a certain country.
You can use other borders or take a plane to another country for visa run purposes or change your itinenary.

It's like going to a Casino.
Observe the house rules if buay song of the rules then don't step in.
bro you do not understand
we were not informed of the border closure by anyone not even the china or mongolia immigration
it was the last day of our visa validity
it was only when we reached the china-mongolia border on the last day of the visa then we realised it was closed , the broder guard said last minute decision by the mongolian side and they the border guards were only informed
on that actual day, we felt we were stabbed in the back
how to fly to hong kong or south korea that is to exit china at such short notice? we had less than 12 hours to midnight(when the visa expire) , we were stranded on a hot noon day at the border crossing
the germans had already booked their hotel rooms in mongolia and were not willing to cancel as that would make them lose the deposit they had paid by credit card online
so we waited another 2 days because the border only opened on the 3rd day
we had to pay fines - some lucky ones got away with 500 rmb ,few others paid 1000 rmb ,5 of them had to pay 1500 rmb, fxxxx the mongolia government
so i can understand how the guy in changping felt when he was caught with his pants down
in actual fact the china side did not close the border, it was mongolia who closed ,so we the group of us could not exit china ,it was not really our fault
but hey it teaches us a lesson- never break any rules in china or else you will pay for it with rmb
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ry stringent these days.

¥4000 for 2 persons was a good deal already.
The longer you drag the more hassle and costly!

Now you see how the HOME Team assists us?



Want to cut best deal must find professional "translator" aka negotiator.

acutally bro tony is right 4000 yuan is cheap enough for 2 policemen
bacause the standard rate for such mongers caught is 5000 RMB for chinamen
my chinaman friend was arrested in a shenyang massage parlour last winter
he and the lady were almost naked when the plainclothes police burst into the sex shop
they were brought back to police station for documentation, he paid 5000 yuan ,signed some documents (confession of guilt) and was allowed to go free, the lady was brought to another room and we were told she was fined 1000 yuan and released
THE MARKET RATE FOR BEING CAUGHT FOR VICE Now in inner mongolia ,shenyang and dongbei is now 5000 rmb for china men
in fact if you read carefully the china lawbook there is a clause saying the penalty for mongering under china's law is fine of 5000 yuan and police lock up of 15 days detention
different cities apply the rules differently
but hey 4000 rmb is not expensive considering he was caught red handed
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bro you do not understand we were not informed of the border closure by anyone not even the china or mongolia immigration
it was the last day of our visa validity
it was only when we reached the china-mongolia border on the last day of the visa then we realised it was closed, the broder guard said last minute decision by the mongolian side and they the border guards were only informed

on that actual day, we felt we were stabbed in the back

how to fly to hong kong or south korea that is to exit china at such short notice? we had less than 12 hours to midnight (when the visa expire), we were stranded on a hot noon day at the border crossing

so we waited another 2 days because the border only opened on the 3rd day
I emphatise with your past mishaps.

I can only say it's bad luck.
The Mongolia side screwed you on this.
However technically you violated the China visa overstay rules.

Since there's no definite announcement on the re-opening date from Mongolia side.
Plans to exit China from another border or by plane should be made soonest.
There's no point in waiting.

Overstay by 1 day is better than overstay by 3 days.
China immigration may be more understanding if they see your effort in exiting China as soon as you can.
Such overstay records are not good if you still want to continue to visit China frequently.
Repeat offenders will get higher penalties or even jail time.
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