Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by iicycold

Not many udstd. 阿里山 is a mountain named after Ali.

Ali - a person,chief of a tribe

Shan - mountain

Ali (阿巴里 - Abali) is a gd famous tribal chief in old time taiwan. His pple name the mountain after him.

Lucky you didnt cook up a story of Ali Baba and the 40 thieves and then link it with the Taiwan's Ali Mountain.

*pure joking here*

Originally Posted by Naka_Timo

... but i think this time one is better, better experience over there and i would perfer a bigger room as the cost is not really that much different. The deluxe one is just a normal room nothing special.

Next time,give Executive room a shot,bro.

700k from Kaha,100k more than Junior...and it will AGAIN,be a different experience...hehehe...

Junior suite : 43 sqm

Executive suite : 48 sqm (you get a door that separate the sleeping room apart plus a bigger bath tub,hehehe...bigger living room space too)

Originally Posted by Naka_Timo

Yes, i rate both 9. The reason is actually base on what you want. What your objective of the trip. Nagoya, make me save all my transport. Everything, eat, shop, can be done there within walking distance. There is a special link way to the mall too and is rather to high end stay.

What you say is true. From another perspective,Nagoya Hill hotel do help you save some transport costs.

Originally Posted by Naka_Timo

Da vienna is also good for a normal saty, for 600K which is about 60buck in sing, you can get a suite room that is very cheap and budget liao to me.

Once a person can conquer the distance of travelling from point A to point B and then to point C (and so on) in Batam. Other hotels with good unique in-room facilities should no longer pose as a problem. Harmoni One would be a good example. If i plan to cook a little,i may stay in Harmoni Suite. If i plan to have a big spacious room,i go for Executive suite at Da Vienna,Biz,maybe even Hans Inn's Suite room...hehehe...i am now looking for other types of Batam hotel room to stay in.

Originally Posted by Naka_Timo

To each his own, i may think this way, other may think otherwise.

Totally agreed with you. Everyone has a different level/type of enjoyment.

[nono1973]

Originally Posted by localbest

Formosa Deluxe cost 460k per nite (join member) whereas Da Vienna Deluxe King cost 490k (Kaha) - Formosa win

Definitely agree with you,but lets not forget the Formosa 460k is a promo price. Original price was 510k rupiah,hehehe...how long is this gonna last? My say is,i need to standby Plan B,like always.

Originally Posted by localbest

Formosa Deluxe have carpet flooring but Da Vienna deluxe uses timber floors which is not cosy - Formosa win (carpet more comfortable)

Definitely,but for every good for a hotel (in this conversation,the carpet),there isalways the same thing that is not-so-good. Odour very much often gets suck into the carpet whenever there's air con and over the years,it keeps adding up resulting in heavier odour,insect breeding etc,thats if proper maintenance isnt carried out regularly.

Originally Posted by localbest

Formosa Deluxe is 30 square metre whereas Da Vienna Deluxe is 24 square metre - Formosa win (bigger floor size by 6 m2)

Hehehe...who wouldnt like a bigger room. But like i say earlier,if there is a good in something ,there will always be a direct opposite of a 'not-so-good' for the same "something". In this case,a bigger floor space requires stronger air con and a more well-ventilated air circulation,therefore a handful of deluxe room in Formosa is not well air-conditioned enough,hence the small handful of complain from some guests that their air con isnt cold enough,yet at times become freezingly cold during the night.

I knew the above theory well enough hence i often ask for a superior-sized room (smaller than the deluxe size) in Formosa rather than getting the deluxe 30 sqm sized room,hehehe...

Originally Posted by localbest

Formosa Deluxe toilet provide tap spray for manually wash backside after pass motion.

Da Vienna Deluxe toilet bowl inside has a nozzle that will spray clean water onto the ass hole of the hotel guest to help to wash clean clean the backside after pass motion - Da Vienna win

I believe this part is quite subjective. I for one wouldnt like the idea of some water jet shooting into my ass hole to wash my butt for me.

I am not a believer of all good and no-bad in almost everything (vice versa). I love to look on the both side of the coin in Formosa Hotel and Da Vienna Hotel.

Let me start from walking into the hotels...

1. From the moment i walked into the hotel premises,i was greeted all the way from the carpark of Formosa hotel (tax drivers and security guard outside) to its glass door (bell boys and security guards inside) and then to the reception counter (the receptionist). Seriously,i dont see that in most other hotels in Batam (except Biz so far),not even Da vienna Hotel.

2. Checking in into Formosa hotel,i do not require myself to put down an upfront deposit when i choose to leave my passport with them. In Da Vienna,i do not have a choice. I MUST put down 300k rupiah deposit and they wont hold on to my passport as their reception counter is too open to the extend that anyone could just walked-in.

3. The Da Vienna receptionist were always busy. A busier receptionists tends not to offer more personal touch service (please note here that i am not implying Da Vienna dont provide good service,in fact they fare way better than many 3 star plus hotels in Batam). I deduce why they were busier becos they have poorer coordination with the housekeeping staffs in other floors. When rooms were ready,reception wasnt notified hence the later check-in for most guests. And with most guests kept in the waiting area,and later almost all of them coming in to check in at a certain same timing (say 1pm to 2pm),how not to be busy.

4. Corridor up to the room,take a look. Why have smoking room on a non-smoking floors. Junior suite room on the 9th floor is a smoking room,but it has a non-smoking corridor and 8th floor has a smoking corridor,but most of the junior suite there were non-smoking room. Isnt that ironical.

Smoking corridor has an ash tray outside the lift,non-smoking corridor also has a ash tray at the same place but it says 'No Smoking'.

5. Upon entering the room,in my case a smoking room. A strong stench of cigarette odour emerge upon opening the door in Da Vienna. I dont have this problem in Formosa smoking room. Do note that the strong cigarette odour from the nose of a smoker and a non-smoker is different.If a smoker says the odour of cigarette smell is thick in a smoking room,it really is. Non smoker/s will most unlikely be able to take it.

* the issue of a strong cigarette odour in most hotel room/s can be resolve at most time by simply turning on the air con with windows and doors opened up for about 5 to 10 mins.

6. As Formosa is an older hotel,always check its flush on its toilet bowl. I have encounter several issue on its flush not flushing whats its suppose to be flushed away completely.

7. TV Programs,apparently both hotels has the same channels but Da Vienna Hotel being newer and taller in building height has a stronger signal.

8. Internet wifi and LAN :

a. Da Vienna has more rooms,more rooms (176) equates to more guests,more guest equates more people logging into its wireless routing. And they seems to be able to take that impact of more users. Strong wifi signal in most rooms,i must say. The bad,their LAN on the hotel dont work.When i ask them to come to fix it,they came,but left w/o fixing the problem.

b. Formosa has lesser room (110),but the structure of their hotel building disallow their newly set up wireless routing to cover all their rooms with stong signal. The LAN port on their wall works,if it doesnt,i call them and they will fix it before they leave. This hotel has a stronger IT team.

9. Security,i think i shant comment on this one becos i have yet to know a hotel in Batam that can beat Formosa base on my knowledge on their securty surveillance,hehehe...and i am not afraid to pass my room key to my girl,allowing her to walk in and out freely even when i am not in room.

10. Now i did a final fussy-customer test. I call housekeeping number,reception and order their food on both hotels. Both hotels pass the quick response timing test,the ask for "anything thats free" test,fixing a light bulb test. But i must say Formosa actually scored higher in this aspect. But i do note that Da Vienna is 7 floors taller than Formosa Hotel. (1 is 4 storey in height and the other is 11)

11. Da Vienna definitely beats Formosa in terms of breakfast base on its varieties. I am a eat to live person,so i am giving more points to the Da Vienna in this one. Man's meat and theory applies.

12. Checking out was a breeze for both hotel. BUT! I am already a season guest in Formosa,i checked out like a prince,hehehe...and i can choose to check out so late that most hotel will charge me half a day stay for it. Its not a fair comparison on this one.

13. Da Vienna Hotel is a hot place to stay among many Sillyporean Chinese,in fact there seems to be too many of them. It goes to show their marketing strategy works since Sillyporean were their primary targeted guests. But with more Chinese Sillyporean in a hotel,the atmosphere becomes different. Like during breakfast,i see people 'speed-walking',bragging loudly and i hear complains about this no good,that no good blah blah blah. Not to mention i am likely to see a familiar face while i was holding a girl's hand whenever i walk out of the hotel too. Formosa Hotel however has a fair share of different mixed nationalities with lesser percentage of Sillypore families comparing with Da Vienna. Biz tho they have many Sillyporean,but i do not see many Chinese Sillyporean (mostly other races).

I am comparing mainly both hotels from the moment i walked in,to the moment i checked out on a mindset when i stayed there for the 1st time.

Just my own point of comparison.

[nitecrawllerr]

Originally Posted by donkan

This muscular guy, by the name of Marine (came to know his name thru my regular OKT later) insist 130 sing dollars for forcing the girl to perform BJ. He also told the security that I hit him first. The girl support his statement. I was frustrated.

My Friend do not want to persuit the problem further, he request me to give the money he want. I gave 100 dollars and my Friend gave 30 dollars to him. Marine and the girls left the room.

I believe strongly in Karma and be very sure that he will be punished and the girl will be cheated by others.

No matter what, they will side with their own people. Kaki lang. Wise of your friend to advise u to pay the money. Luckily its only $130. Most fortunate of all the girl did not plant any drugs in your room. Or else your "PR" status confirmed "approved".

Bro, when cheong in Baksoland we are already not doing a good deed. Just like what had happened to u now. It could be your karma, imo. Maybe to balance our karma, spent more on charity.

Thanks for the warning/alert.

[donkan]

To all Bros,

Thanks for all the advices as each of them are taken with very much attention and high level of seriousness. Thanks also on well wishing me to recover soon. Even if the physical injuries taking time but with all your caring and concern words, it will definitely speed up.

I have been to batam at least 5 counts since the beginning of the year. But I realize the seniority or how experience you are, once you are at the place where out of Singapore it does not correlate. A danger is bound to exist.

A lesson well learnt and vow not to hire FL anymore. If I decide to travel to batam, definitely not now! I will pick up girls from farms. They are safe and has the farm OKT to ensure certain level of safety..

Thanks again to all caring Bros...

[Black Page]

Originally Posted by MiG27

I remember seeing pic of mey not too long ago....was it posted by bro Don?

Definitely posted before! And even recommended!

Originally Posted by MiG27

Anyway, now we have pic of mey , rina n mila.... How does you guys rate them in terms of looks? As compare to those seen at booking joints. How much do you think the 3 gals worth?

To be honest, when I saw those ugly photos posted here some days ago, even before knowing they (or one of them) are professional scammers in agreement with some local bandit, I thought "How the heck could one pay a premium price to stay with this kind of low-level ugly women in Batam??"
With so many pretty and nicer girls all around? In massage joints, KTV, bars, pubs, discos??

They are out of the market, and only with the help of a professional scammer they can make money at the expense of tourists.

So, how much I would rate them? Just enter one of the main joints (Bunga, Happy, Sedona, etc. etc. etc.) and look around. Ladies with that look are usually priced in range 600k-800k (booking rate). No more than that.

I could enumerate the various mistakes made by Mr. Donkan (not to blame you my friend! You have my solidarity, really! I feel so much sympathy for you. Just to list lessons learned to avoid others repeat the same), which led to that unfortunate ending, but the first of them was to accept to overpay 1.5M for women that in Bunga would have been offered for 1M or less. Just that should have demonstrated that the source was not trustable, neither friendly, since the beginning.

Originally Posted by Soi6

Just passing by..
I am old man but these girls are worthless.
I won't touch them even with a 10 foot pole. Not even if you paid me.

Well, don't be so sharply negative. Should someone pay me, I would consider the opportunity...

(Word of Wisdom:
Money is the Greatest World's Aphrodisiac)

[kerplunkz]

Hi bros

My friends and i plan to head down this Thursday for some fun but we understood its the 2nd day of hari raya as most ceweks balik kampung? Any broa got any good lobang for ktvs with cewek can tapao and price. Would appreciate help

[BFOMF5]

FYI

[lobowolf]

Any bro have contacts of FL in Batam to share? Can you please PM me? Will up you in return. Thanks

[iicycold]

Originally Posted by nitecrawllerr

Bro, when cheong in Baksoland we are already not doing a good deed. Just like what had happened to u now. It could be your karma, imo. Maybe to balance our karma, spent more on charity.

Mayb can go windsor tua pek kong bai bai.

Originally Posted by donkan

A lesson well learnt and vow not to hire FL anymore. If I decide to travel to batam, definitely not now! I will pick up girls from farms. They are safe and has the farm OKT to ensure certain level of safety..

Bro,no need to say until mus 'vow'. Keep the fl option open in case heng heng 1 day u chance upon a model fl with no okt or smthg delicious,just go ahead to grab it. No need give me face.

Oh,yes.Wat's yr room no. in pacific? tomorrow r'ber buy 4D hor.

[BFOMF5]

Originally Posted by iicycold

No need give me face.

Bros icy..
You talk as if all fl you
pow kau liou...
Joking only ha..

Saw your interested in the newhill roomstay.
Found this fine print that might affect yours decision for long stay...



Just wondering what is the tariff for the water and electricity.

[ilovelife.now]

Hello bros thanks for all the tips

Planning to visit Batam on a Friday

This weekend is best or the next ? I know Hari Raya tomorrow so nothing available then. Thanks yea!

[donkan]

Bro,no need to say until mus 'vow'. Keep the fl option open in case heng heng 1 day u chance upon a model fl with no okt or smthg delicious,just go ahead to grab it. No need give me face.

Oh,yes.Wat's yr room no. in pacific? tomorrow r'ber buy 4D hor. [/QUOTE]

Bro, it's nope for FL in Batam, only farm house.. Haha the room nos was 421..

[fde83]

Yes... lebaran is here. I wonder if I could see some fireworks from MBS and im not talking about fireworks in kamar, lol. I sure hell can see our national day fireworks from tanjung pinggir thou. Ok joking aside, Eid Mubarak fellow bros. Peace

[nitecrawllerr]

Originally Posted by iicycold

Mayb can go windsor tua pek kong bai bai.

Cos at times those ceweks service us against their owe free wills. They were forced into prostitution. What to do. Small head rules big head. Just to balance our sins. Donate some money to the poor or religious institutions.

[BFOMF5]

Originally Posted by ilovelife.now

...This weekend is best or the next ?...

Next Week best..
Why???
This FRI only the 3rd day aft HariRaya they still in the holiday mood.
Sat they pack and kissing their kins goodbye from province.
SUNDAY they reach the major town queuing for train or flight ticket.

By the time they reach Batam is about late SUNDAY.
Monday they unpack their left over HariRaya kuew kumpong.
Tuesday Wednesday they queue up for medical checkup
Thursday they got the test result.

Friday... BINGO all ready and line up for you..

ENJOY...