Raise water prices by as much as 100% to reflect production cost: Economist

[skyleon]

Please note that before anyone ask what has this got to do with a sex forum ? It has in every way to do with a sex forum. As your disposable income get lesser you will definitely spend less on bonking . Any idiot can see that food prices will definitely with the water price hike . Your bonking activities will definitely decrease as more of your money will be set aside for all these new price increases . Think about it .

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by Baigonggong

Like that Ah Gong have to drink less water and eat less porridge liao . Lucky I never vote for the MIW .

You don't know how democracy work is it.
U don't vote for scumbags but u still suffer when majority vote for them .

Even when minority vote for Trump, the whole world will suffer
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[SiaSuay]

Originally Posted by swordfish2006

I do feel it is time to increase water price if it is true that they have not made adjustment over the last 20year. But 30% increase is quite a lot, probably they can do it over a spread of few years. Business heavily depending on water will be hardest hit. Especially those SME. Garment already hint they working to increase revenue to meet raising cost, so I bet "GST" +1% coming our way and maybe additional luxury tax / income tax increase also brewing. Maybe increase casino gaming revenue tax a good option, since it will be less impact to ordinary people on the street whom does not go casino nor have cash for that. If I'm not wrong our casino gaming revenue lowest in the world. How come leh !

* just my 2 cent thought.

Regards
Fish

The problem with your thinking is that they did not explain in detail how the cost of water production had gone up . Just say cost gone up . There is certainly a lack of transpenracy here . We know Singapore got the water from Johor ; recycle water and distillation plants. But does it justify a 30% price hike ? The impact will be on Singaporeans who own property and mostly the majority of the population are staying in HDB flats . Businesses also would be impacted and if they can't sustain their profitability more people will lose their jobs. So the question will be is it justify to increase by this much amount ?

[SiaSuay]

Originally Posted by nitecrawllerr

Actually we can forsee such thing like increased of prices here and there are imminent. With the influx of foreign "talents" and immigrants, consumption sure in demand. Housing prices up. Transport system down. Jobs taken away. Water and soon electricity tariffs up.

So honestly, does immigrants really benefit us? Man in the street?

The ones that are hurting are those natural born Singaporeans . The ones that voted for the government into power in the hope the government will make their lives better . I wonder why are the opposition parties so quiet on this matter .

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by giggz83

do we have pro-gov members here? wanna hear from your perspective ..

Have a lot!!!

They're the low brow uneducated idiots here.

Their first step is to launch personal attacks. 'Ccb!!!! Your mother is ccb! Why u attack garbagement'

Second step is to regurgitate garbagement rubbish. Like repeating how garbagement candidate are scholars but opposition are all crooks
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[skyleon]

Originally Posted by sadfa

Have a lot!!!

They're the low brow uneducated idiots here.

Their first step is to launch personal attacks. 'Ccb!!!! Your mother is ccb! Why u attack garbagement'

Second step is to regurgitate garbagement rubbish. Like repeating how garbagement candidate are scholars but opposition are all crooks
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You forgot to add is that they always like to write in big red fonts . On top of that create so many clones to attack us . In the end the clones kenna banned .

[LauYewTee]

They are really too much. But what can we do? Next election, have any difference meh. All like to say, don't want to act. Scare this care that, talk only number 1.

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by LauYewTee

They are really too much. But what can we do? Next election, have any difference meh. All like to say, don't want to act. Scare this care that, talk only number 1.

Ya lor
Spore is finished LA.
Sporeans fucking cowards. Scared of own shadow.

Farhan is right.
Garbagement is like abusive husband.
They normally beat sporeans but when they need sporeans for votes, they'll sayang sporeans. Once they got the votes, resume whacking sporeans
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Exchange points abusive ma

[skyleon]

WP questions need for water price hike



By Siau Ming En

Published: 4:00 AM, March 1, 2017

Updated: 8:17 AM, March 1, 2017



SINGAPORE — Workers’ Party (WP) Members of Parliament yesterday questioned the decision to raise water prices, calling on the Government to thoroughly explain how the impending 30 per cent hike was calculated. They also suggested that the timing was “political” to avoid having to raise prices when elections draw near.

Speaking in Parliament yesterday during the debate on the Budget statement, Mr Pritam Singh (Aljunied GRC) raised a slew of questions, seeking to “understand the decision-making processes” behind the increases.

“I believe a deeper explanation from the Government about how it prices water and its long-run cost imperatives would enable the public to better understand and rationalise this water price hike, in addition to improving public understanding of this issue,” said Mr Singh, who noted that the water price hikes came on the back of other municipal price increases. These include the increases in HDB car park charges, higher electricity tariffs, and higher service and conservancy charges — all within the last three months.

Last week, Finance Minister Heng Swee Keat announced that water prices would go up by 30 per cent in two phases, in July this year and July next year. Noting that water sufficiency is a matter of national survival, he said the authorities have priced water to reflect the higher costs of desalination and NEWater production “because every additional drop of water has to come from these two sources”.

PUB has also said that the total water price is pegged to the long run marginal costs of water supply — on which Mr Singh pressed for more details, asking how PUB calculates the components of these costs and assesses when water prices should be raised.

Turning to the time period used for its projections, Mr Singh also questioned if the authorities are looking at the expiry of the water agreement with Malaysia in 2061, or when Singapore’s water consumption is expected to double, for instance.

He also asked if the record low levels in Linggiu Reservoir — which enables Singapore to reliably draw water from the Johor River to meet half of its water needs — were a factor in deciding to raise prices.

Instead of solely relying on water pricing to promote conservation, Mr Singh suggested that the Government turn to creative pricing strategies, such as lowering taxes for those who use less water.

WP Non-Constituency MPs Leon Perera and Dennis Tan also questioned the timing of the water price hikes, with Mr Perera suggesting that the timing of the recent price hikes “seem more synchronised to the political cycle than to the economic cycle”.


continue reading here : http://www.todayonline.com/singapore...ter-price-hike


Well done WP this is the time for you to strike back at the PAP . I wonder where is the rest of opposition parties like NSP ; SDP ; First Party and Reform Party . All disappear and keep quiet ? Only appear during elections time ? Like that how you expect people to vote for you ?

[skyleon]

Budget 2017: Defer water price hike, relook help for middle class, say MPs


By Lianne Chia

Posted 28 Feb 2017 21:03
Updated 28 Feb 2017 23:54



SINGAPORE: The water price increase and helping the middle class cope with the rising cost of living were among the issues brought up by Members of Parliament (MPs) on Tuesday (Feb 28), the first day of Parliament’s debate on the Budget statement.

MPs also pointed out the need to relook the Government’s approach of looking at home type as a measure of determining the distribution of grants and support.

In his speech, MP for Mountbatten Lim Biow Chuan asked the Government to consider a stay on the water price increase for this year. In his Budget statement, Finance Minister Heng Swee Keat had announced that water prices would be increased by 30 per cent in two phases over the next two years.

While Mr Lim noted that “there is never a good time” to raise the prices of utilities, it is “definitely not a good time”, given the economic uncertainty.

He pointed out that the price increase appears to have distracted many Singaporeans from “much more important messages”, like how to plan for one’s future, and the fast-changing world.

“Water is critical to our survival and we need to take adequate measures to conserve water, but sadly, the 30 per cent increase in prices seems to have distracted from the main intent of the Budget,” he said. “And due to rumour-mongering, many people seem to have been so caught up and concerned about the increase that they seem to have forgotten or ignored the various other measures the Government has introduced to help mitigate the price increase.”

He added that if it is not possible to defer the price increase, he hopes the Government can ensure that businessmen do not profiteer from it. One way they can do this, he said, is to set up a committee against profiteering, similar to the one that was set up when the GST was raised.

MP for Nee Soon GRC Henry Kwek also spoke about the water price increase and its impact on the cost of living, adding that he has seen the water bills of some hawkers in his constituency.


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[SiaSuay]

All the PAP MPs wayang only . Can you seriously think that your rebates can really fully cover the price increase for the full year . What about the next year after that and so on .

[skyleon]

Water must be priced in full to reflect its scarcity: Masagos


By Siau Ming En

Published: 4:15 PM, March 1, 2017

Updated: 4:39 PM, March 1, 2017



SINGAPORE — Unlike how housing, healthcare and education are subsidised in Singapore, water has to be priced fully as it is a matter of national security, and consumers must feel the full price of water to realise its value, said Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Masagos Zulkifli on Wednesday (March 1),

But even with the impending 30 per cent hike in water prices, the price of water in Singapore will still be lower than the long run marginal cost – which is the increase in cost over the long run from increasing production, said Mr Masagos who was speaking in Parliament during the debate on the Budget statement.

Speaking a day after parliamentarians, including Workers’ Party MPs, had questioned the timing and need for the price hikes, Mr Masagos noted that water is unlike any other ordinary commodity in Singapore. “Water is a strategic issue. It is a national security (issue). We must price water fully… The consumer must feel the full price of water. The consumer must realise how valuable water is to us in Singapore every time he or she turns on the tap, right from the first drop,” said the minister.

He added: “This is the best way to emphasise the scarcity value of water.”

Mr Masagos also outlined how the costs of water have gradually gone up over the years, but said that details of how the long run marginal cost was computed cannot be revealed. Revealing these specifics could prejudice future bids for desalination, NEWater and water reclamation plants that have yet to be built or expanded, he explained.

The long run marginal cost of water comes from the costs of NEWater and desalination. Between the two, Singapore will have to depend more on desalination to meet increasing water demands, as there is a limit to recycling used water in the NEWater plants.

Therefore, more desalination plants will have to be built. Treated water from Singapore’s latest desalination plant at Marina plant costs S$1.08 per cubic metre for the first year, which is 40 per cent more than the corresponding price at Singapore’s first desalination plant Singspring in its first year.

Meanwhile, as the proportion of water being reclaimed for NEWater increases, effluent or waste water becomes more concentrated, making it difficult and costly to treat.


continue reading here : http://www.todayonline.com/singapore...ces-parliament

[nitecrawllerr]

Originally Posted by SiaSuay

The ones that are hurting are those natural born Singaporeans . The ones that voted for the government into power in the hope the government will make their lives better . I wonder why are the opposition parties so quiet on this matter .

Frankly no use kpkb anymore. We were given a golden opportunity last GE. But 70% blew it away. Now with so many new immigrants converting to SC, chances of MIW retaining power seems very likely.

[skyleon]

Budget designed for every Government to earn own keep: Chan Chun Sing

By Justin Ong
Posted 01 Mar 2017 19:52
Updated 01 Mar 2017 20:26


SINGAPORE: The national Budget system is designed such that every term of Government has to earn its keep, said Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office Chan Chun Sing on Wed (Mar 1) in response to comments by opposition politicians on Budget 2017.

A day earlier the Workers’ Party’s (WP) Leon Perera said the timing of various price hikes seemed “more synchronised to the political cycle than to the economic cycle”. “People have three years to forget them before the next General Election," he said.

“Some say this is a political Budget; that we spend less so we can time the political cycle,” said Mr Chan. “Guess what … At the start of every term of Government, PAP (People’s Action Party) or otherwise … We precisely designed the system such that no Government will come in and promise to spend before it has earned its keep.”


“This is unlike other countries. This is the reason why we have been able to get one dollar out of every five to support our Budget,” he continued.


“So we rather err on the side of caution. This is why our forefathers have put in this system and this generation will continue to uphold this system.”


Mr Chan also responded to suggestions - voiced by WP members - that the Government was ignoring the short-term pains of the economy.


“Is that so? If this is so, why did (Finance) Minister Heng Swee Keat announce targeted measures to help specific sectors like the offshore and marine? Like the S$700 million we pushed into the construction sector?” he asked.


“If this is so, why spend all that we spent for that increase in U-Save rebates, to make sure that even though prices may increase on average, we will take care of the lower-income first?”


“If we adopt such a cynical attitude to budgeting, would we have done this? If indeed this is a cynical Government, then we shouldn’t be giving anything at all,” Mr Chan pointed out.


“No, this is not a cynical Government and it would be wrong for us to impute our own perverse motives.”


“(The Budget) is targeted to help, and precisely because we feel the pain for our people.”


“JOBS, JOBS AND JOBS”


Mr Chan also warned that managing an economy was “not like turning a thermostat in an aircon room”.


“If this Government is not concerned with the short-term, and if the economy goes down south, who can guarantee that in two years' time, when we want turn it up, it will go up?”


“We don’t have to look too far. The competition across the world is intense. Some countries lose their footing, get into a downward spiral and never recover,” he said.


“Our job is to keep ourselves on a steady path, making sure we address short-term pains while establishing conditions for long-term success. It’s never either/or, it’s always both.”


Mr Chan, who is also secretary-general of the National Trades Union Congress (NTUC), gave emphasis to what he called the Labour Movement’s three priorities for 2017: “Jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs for those displaced today; jobs for those who might be displaced tomorrow.”


“But let’s be frank with ourselves. Grants and subsidies alone won’t create jobs, especially sustainable jobs,” he said. “Grants and subsidies enable and help but the crux must come from our businesses, our access to markets and our innovation.”


Added Mr Chan: “When we look at our Budget, this is what we see - MTI, MOM, MOE and other agencies all focused on these four basic fundamental issues to support our businesses: enable innovation, internationalisation, SkillsFuture and a more progressive regulatory environment for start-ups.”


“WHAT IS A RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT?”


Wrapping up his speech, Mr Chan, who is Government Whip, talked about what it meant to be a responsible Government.


“One that not only takes care of short-term needs of the people, but also the future. One that prices essentials properly and does not distort the market, leading to more subsidies that will burden future generations.”


“A responsible Government is not one that will raise prices and not take especially greater care for the poor. It is not one that pretends it will make difficult decisions but no one will have to bear a greater part of the responsibility to help those with less.”



continue reading here : http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...n/3559208.html


"A Good government strives to make its' citizens' lives better and not harder "

[sadfa]

Originally Posted by skyleon

Budget designed for every Government to earn own keep: Chan Chun Sing

By Justin Ong
Posted 01 Mar 2017 19:52
Updated 01 Mar 2017 20:26


SINGAPORE: The national Budget system is designed such that every term of Government has to earn its keep, said Minister in the Prime Minister’s Office Chan Chun Sing on Wed (Mar 1) in response to comments by opposition politicians on Budget 2017.

A day earlier the Workers’ Party’s (WP) Leon Perera said the timing of various price hikes seemed “more synchronised to the political cycle than to the economic cycle”. “People have three years to forget them before the next General Election," he said.

“Some say this is a political Budget; that we spend less so we can time the political cycle,” said Mr Chan. “Guess what … At the start of every term of Government, PAP (People’s Action Party) or otherwise … We precisely designed the system such that no Government will come in and promise to spend before it has earned its keep.”


“This is unlike other countries. This is the reason why we have been able to get one dollar out of every five to support our Budget,” he continued.


“So we rather err on the side of caution. This is why our forefathers have put in this system and this generation will continue to uphold this system.”


Mr Chan also responded to suggestions - voiced by WP members - that the Government was ignoring the short-term pains of the economy.


“Is that so? If this is so, why did (Finance) Minister Heng Swee Keat announce targeted measures to help specific sectors like the offshore and marine? Like the S$700 million we pushed into the construction sector?” he asked.


“If this is so, why spend all that we spent for that increase in U-Save rebates, to make sure that even though prices may increase on average, we will take care of the lower-income first?”


“If we adopt such a cynical attitude to budgeting, would we have done this? If indeed this is a cynical Government, then we shouldn’t be giving anything at all,” Mr Chan pointed out.


“No, this is not a cynical Government and it would be wrong for us to impute our own perverse motives.”


“(The Budget) is targeted to help, and precisely because we feel the pain for our people.”


“JOBS, JOBS AND JOBS”


Mr Chan also warned that managing an economy was “not like turning a thermostat in an aircon room”.


“If this Government is not concerned with the short-term, and if the economy goes down south, who can guarantee that in two years' time, when we want turn it up, it will go up?”


“We don’t have to look too far. The competition across the world is intense. Some countries lose their footing, get into a downward spiral and never recover,” he said.


“Our job is to keep ourselves on a steady path, making sure we address short-term pains while establishing conditions for long-term success. It’s never either/or, it’s always both.”


Mr Chan, who is also secretary-general of the National Trades Union Congress (NTUC), gave emphasis to what he called the Labour Movement’s three priorities for 2017: “Jobs, jobs and jobs. Jobs for those displaced today; jobs for those who might be displaced tomorrow.”


“But let’s be frank with ourselves. Grants and subsidies alone won’t create jobs, especially sustainable jobs,” he said. “Grants and subsidies enable and help but the crux must come from our businesses, our access to markets and our innovation.”


Added Mr Chan: “When we look at our Budget, this is what we see - MTI, MOM, MOE and other agencies all focused on these four basic fundamental issues to support our businesses: enable innovation, internationalisation, SkillsFuture and a more progressive regulatory environment for start-ups.”


“WHAT IS A RESPONSIBLE GOVERNMENT?”


Wrapping up his speech, Mr Chan, who is Government Whip, talked about what it meant to be a responsible Government.


“One that not only takes care of short-term needs of the people, but also the future. One that prices essentials properly and does not distort the market, leading to more subsidies that will burden future generations.”


“A responsible Government is not one that will raise prices and not take especially greater care for the poor. It is not one that pretends it will make difficult decisions but no one will have to bear a greater part of the responsibility to help those with less.”



continue reading here : http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/...n/3559208.html


"A Good government strives to make its' citizens' lives better and not harder "

This asshole aiming to be asshole of the month.

Even more obnoxious than Vivian khaw n shanmmugam.

What the fuck. He even dare say forefathers. Who the fuck is forefather????
Did he weep when he say that
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