My advice may not be the best, but, having met and loved and quarrelled with enough pinays, I believe that's not the best course of action
For this guy to do what he did I believe he must have been an extreme cool character who would know how to handle the situation if it turns out ugly.
Hats off to him for giving the pinoys a taste of their own medicine.
I have met seasoned tourists in AC who carry concealed firearms and strangely the pinoys seems to be aware of that fact, and they leave them alone and some even defer to these tourists.
For those who may be interested to know.... some trivia for you.
In 2011 from Jan up to Oct, there were a total of 11 foreigners murdered in AC (to include the murders of locals would take up too much space).
The latest was Paul raymond Atkins;
Last September, David Balmer and his girlfriend were simultaneously killed while asleep in a friend’s house at Josefaville Subdivision in barangay Malabanias, Angeles City;
The gunslay of British national Bruce Anthony Jones, a skipper of an international Panamanian-registered vessel;
James Bolton Porter, another British tourist, was gunned down in a posh subdivision;
Geoffrey Allan Bennun, a Canadian-American, was shot dead with his Filipina live-in partner inside Oasis Hotel Villa;
Albert Mitchell, a retired American serviceman, was killed along with his wife and three other Filipino.
The other murder victims were Thomas Michael Thorpe, Benn Diefenbacked, Korean Kang Ha Yong, William Laveri and James Kermit Graham.
All of these cases no progress has been made to apprehend the culprits.
For those who may be interested to know.... some trivia for you.
In 2011 from Jan up to Oct, there were a total of 11 foreigners murdered in AC (to include the murders of locals would take up too much space).
The latest was Paul raymond Atkins;
Last September, David Balmer and his girlfriend were simultaneously killed while asleep in a friend’s house at Josefaville Subdivision in barangay Malabanias, Angeles City;
The gunslay of British national Bruce Anthony Jones, a skipper of an international Panamanian-registered vessel;
James Bolton Porter, another British tourist, was gunned down in a posh subdivision;
Geoffrey Allan Bennun, a Canadian-American, was shot dead with his Filipina live-in partner inside Oasis Hotel Villa;
Albert Mitchell, a retired American serviceman, was killed along with his wife and three other Filipino.
The other murder victims were Thomas Michael Thorpe, Benn Diefenbacked, Korean Kang Ha Yong, William Laveri and James Kermit Graham.
All of these cases no progress has been made to apprehend the culprits.
Why bother to investigate the death of foreigners, when the locals' death itself if often not investigated, or .. the culprit given time to surrender .. or is plain simply forgiven. ..
Another trivia: what happens when a servicemans' gun is accidentally discharged and a child is killed ?
In other countries, the serviceman will be court martialled for not properly handling his weapon.
In Philippines ? the dead child's family ask for forgiveness, and the serviceman is not even sent for court martial ..
And you are worrying about dead foreigners ??? haha ..
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Went out last night to oct festival with a girl which I had never boom boom before.she was a bar girl that I know for sometime.
She told me her friends is also inside & maybe we can drink together later.initially I just wanted to experience the street festival with excitement.her sister was with her when she met me.I expect there would be some free loader friends with her so I ask how many friends she meeting.the reply was 2.And it's friend from her bar.and they were already in there.(need to pay entrance to get in).
As we head towards the street festival she met her friends outside the entrance.there were her friend boyfriend,sister,cousin,friend of cousin.friend of sister.my alarm was ringing.just as we about to get to the entrance I told her I will pay for her share for the entrance.(80peso each)she ask me what about her sister & friends?I told her I will only pay for the entrance for her & her sister & there were too many people I can't take care all of them.she look at me with disappointment like I'm a cheap Charlie & her sister try to convince me to pay for her friends and family & the comment was the others were only 8 of them.ONLY.I hate this word.feel like telling them why don't they pay for my entrance i was only one person 80peso only.why should I pay for them?anyway they paid Thier own share & I paid for my girl & her sister & I sense that things not going well soon.
Entered the oct festival area wanted to walk around but they soon got a big table & sat down.alarm ringing again & true enough they were expecting me to order drinks for them.i was preparing to cut this girl loose & my decision was to buy a round & see but food & snack was order without being ask.The bill was presented right away to me,ate my share of food & beer.they were enjoying themself.my girl was cold towards me & I was like transparent to them.I down the beer hard & fcuk myself back to Feilds before they order more round & enjoy 2 drinks with a big susu who give me a great time in the bar.
Kindness doesn't always pay especially as a foreigner we will always be expected to pay.they have absolutely no shame & they feed on kindness.
I'm learning to be a better monger.
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Originally Posted by datou
Bro, I think most important is don't have too much affection for the girl no matter how attractive she is.
This way you can cut loose easier once signs of chut pattern occurs.
Like a cute girl I always like to chat when at her bar because she always gives me electric waves n dance infront of me.
But that day so happens she saw me w another girl n from that instant bochap me. Well now I also take her as invisible when I passed by.
Like the saying "don't because of a tree give up the whole forest"
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Originally Posted by Rub&Buah
Thanks bro.im still training to be a better monger.i have not done well back running away before they order the 1st round of drinks and food & not firm enought to not pay when all the eyes are on u when the bill is presented to me.wish i had just say why should i pay & walk off.I remember when I was still a newbie I was taken great advantage of as if like we owe them.in Thailand,indo,Msia,philippine they exist everywhere.inviting u to go somewhere then order the food & beer As if like it was a buffet party.girls being their friend to club and shopping then make u pay for even their 'sister' shopping.the hardcore one even request to cover Thier 'brother' expenses as well.
Being generous is one thing.to demand and leech on other generosity is crossing the line too far.u feel like a sucker when u give in to Thier nonsense request & I blame myself countless time for that.I'm maybe seasoned now but not hardcore enough I guess we many samster are too gentlemen at times which is good as nature but not good as a monger.
It's true that we are lucky not to born in poverty but we work our ass off day and night to pay our bills too.these freeloader thinks our money grow from tree.I had a discussion on another forum,PA.there is another sg monger who went thru almost exact situation like mine he barfine a girl from alantis on the way back to hotel they wanted to eat the girl suggested a Filipino restruant & ask if her cousin can tagged along.he agree thinking it's only one girl when he reach there he was surprise with 4gals 3 guys already waiting in there.they order the red horse beer & food as if its xmas party even without asking what he want & have a merry time bill was presented to him when the food is serve.exact same case as me.
He got fed up & join Thier games.order 2 dozen more beer & all the most expensive food on the menu to upsize the party of these free loader Thier face looks like they found gold.he then say he is stepping out for a smoke to the girl & took a Trike back to his hotel.that's my idol.imagine the look of those freeloader later.
Well power to the person who joined the games and then leave without paying.
For my case I wont even agreed to let the gal bring anyone along. So if spotted, then I will straight away say goodbye to her and her friends. So think I am qualified to be cheap Charlie.
I m also gonna arange meeting a dia girl , so just hope she don't bring her whole family along, anyway did told her to come alone.
Today 930am just as i was buying some drugs n food, met the Milkman going to take a taxi to catch his flight. Glad he had a good time last night n bade him farewell. He already book his air-tickets for next trip months ahead.
You fellas are really good at gettin cheap tickets.
Well if you are not job tied, you can also start to join the group by booking early. For me I am job-tied, so cant really plan so far ahead. So no choice have to pay for higer air-ticket.
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Originally Posted by datou
It's my first time there also, if not already b/f my regular girl, I would have taken 1 from this joint too.
The chances of runner or attitude from ZIEBART's home girls is much lesser.
As the saying goes "Want to hit the dog also must know who the owner is first"
Yup agreed with this statement. With good reputation means more customers will intro their friends there.
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Originally Posted by phantomtiger2
No, I said I never post NUDE or SEX photos and never use their FULL Names (1st and last name).
Its OK to post regular photos of them and only use their 1st names as 1st names are common.
But as I also said, do try to post name of bars and 1st name of gals anyone had bad experiences with or runners so others here will be better informed and not get rip off by picking up the same gal not knowing in advance. We must share good experiences and bad ones as well. It is one of the main reasons we all share intel on this forum.
Cheers
PT
Well cause back then datou nvr post so just make use of this to hint him. LOL Hmmm even by posting their norm photos wont it also let their family members knows she's working ? I do support that no nude photos to be posted, share maybe, but not posted to respect them.
Do agree to share the good and bad ones especially runners to prevent more bro's getting the bad experience.
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Originally Posted by The Milk Man
But the younger sister was damn pissed with me....... send me sms to scold me while I was at airport waiting to board the plane
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Originally Posted by datou
Of course scold u lah.
Ur hands all over her boobs n don't take her.
Pass me her no. so I can help u comfort her.
Power leh The Milk Man.
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Originally Posted by inluv07
A few years back I walked from fields to Stargate ...must have been insane then, never gonna do that again for sure!
Actually southaddress and I almost did it too. Cause the initial plan was to go find a thai restaurant but eventuallyfrom Field walked up until HoneyKo's area.Hmmm I am a person who loves walking, so maybe next trip will give it a try. From Field all the way to Lost in Asia. LOL
LOL Hmmm even by posting their norm photos wont it also let their family members knows she's working ? I do support that no nude photos to be posted, share maybe, but not posted to respect them.
Do agree to share the good and bad ones especially runners to prevent more bro's getting the bad experience.
From my experiences, Most of the time the family is only told by the gals that they are "working" as waitress in a restaurant or bar or hotel etc and NOT as sex workers. So not a big deal if photo surfaces on the net (but clothes on) as she could be with friends but its another thing to explain fully nude photos of the same gal or with a dick in her mouth
Thanks bro.im still training to be a better monger.i have not done well back running away before they order the 1st round of drinks and food & not firm enought to not pay when all the eyes are on u when the bill is presented to me.wish i had just say why should i pay & walk off
He got fed up & join Thier games.order 2 dozen more beer & all the most expensive food on the menu to upsize the party of these free loader Thier face looks like they found gold.he then say he is stepping out for a smoke to the girl & took a Trike back to his hotel.that's my idol.imagine the look of those freeloader later.
Yes, some are very well rehearsed in how to make you feel guilty and peer pressure to give in and pay it all and not lose face or label a cheap charlie.
I've read about sometimes some guys get annoy and pull a stupid stunt like the one you described but I highly advised against any of you doing the same. To add up an expensive bill that some locals must somehow pay (and may not be able to do so) will only make enemies in their home territory. Some may not like what happened and take justice into their own hands with some beatings or worse. The fact that you took a gal they know also means they know where you are staying. Remember this is AC where almost all crimes are unsolved.
PT2: knowing the education and the way the church has taught them (no church vs us debate, but that's the truth .. ) even if they see a girl's photo with the dick in the mouth, they will swear it is a conspiracy, or she was just doing some checking ..
And I know cases when the brothers in Singapore didn't have the heart to tell their sisters what happens in TP/PM, and when the sisters are excited and enticed by the neighbours to come and make some big money as waitresses, the brothers don't dare tell their sisters what way the big money will come .. and when the sisters arrived her, the brothers are shamelessly asking friends to support the sister ..
Well, I am not making the above up, I know atleast 6 filipino friends of mine, who's sisters did stints here .. though I stayed away from their work places as I didn't want to auto-roam on a friend's sister .. though the brothers took their other friends to splurge on LD ..
What a silly web of lie they weave .. so don't try to see logic .. says my 2 cents ..
Welcome to Pinay land .. and hence my abnormal advice also to walk away from trouble spots .. as I said before ..
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Yesterday 3pm text ZIEBART I am going to bar fine a girl.
Turn up at Honeykos play pool w my girl for till 5pm when ZIEBART suddenly turns up. He really knows where to find me.
As i just settled my bill, he decides to leave.
Then the previous' day pretty cherry girl was lookin for him for revenge on pool, approached me when she can't find him.
I went out of the bar n pull him back to the poolroom.
As expected the cherry girl lost n I get a glimpse of her nicefirm boobs w courtesy of ZIEBART.
After that I bade him farewell n went back to hotel w a bbq chicken rice set.
Ate n had a nice sexxion w her but there was alight smell as she just finished her mens.
7pm Received a text from ZBT he is playin pool in Angel witch n we joined him there. Played a game of pool 10per game stated atbove pool table.
My mediocre skills got a long way to reach a std level.
Took photos of me n girl, watch dances n pool.
10pm Then we decided to go videoke so settle bill while ZBT contd w his game.
There were too many people at the Korean videoke so we decided to join ZBT at midnight later to sing.
informed ZBT to text us when he is goin there n my girl wanted some fruits before going back to hotel.
We went to 1 roadside fruit stall n asked for the price of a grapefruit. He quoted 120p n I negotiated to 80 after refusing to agree to 90.
While packin the fruit, the guy said "kuripot".
I was pissed off n tell the guy " u think I don't understand wat u say? I m not buying" in a serious but not agressive manner. He threatened me not to walk past there again, i just ignored him n went across the street n bought 2 mongoes for 50p n went back to hotel.
Wat would u guys do if u r called a kuripot from a fruit seller u r goin to buy from? Think i will avoid all roadside stalls from now but sometimes many of the normal shops r closed at this hour.
I told my girl that we should buy from supermarket nextime n she agrees tellin me the guy is bad for sayin that. But she did not speak a word back then so guess she do not want to be invovled.
Went back hotel for 2nd rd w my girl, take mangoes, drink coffee n watch tv.
ZBT text me at 1am went down to meet him n expected he able to get a girl from nowhere. Sang, eat drink till for 2 hrs n ZBT want to call it a night.
So we parted along the way n back to hotel.
Woke up this morning 8am, she got to go hygiene check so went off at 9am, she said later will text me.
PT2: knowing the education and the way the church has taught them (no church vs us debate, but that's the truth .. ) even if they see a girl's photo with the dick in the mouth, they will swear it is a conspiracy, or she was just doing some checking ..
And I know cases when the brothers in Singapore didn't have the heart to tell their sisters what happens in TP/PM, and when the sisters are excited and enticed by the neighbours to come and make some big money as waitresses, the brothers don't dare tell their sisters what way the big money will come .. and when the sisters arrived her, the brothers are shamelessly asking friends to support the sister ..
Well, I am not making the above up, I know atleast 6 filipino friends of mine, who's sisters did stints here .. though I stayed away from their work places as I didn't want to auto-roam on a friend's sister .. though the brothers took their other friends to splurge on LD ..
What a silly web of lie they weave .. so don't try to see logic .. says my 2 cents ..
Welcome to Pinay land .. and hence my abnormal advice also to walk away from trouble spots .. as I said before ..
It's not surprising when money is the motivation factor.
笑贫不笑娼 laugh at the poor but not at the whore.
We went to 1 roadside fruit stall n asked for the price of a grapefruit. He quoted 120p n I negotiated to 80 after refusing to agree to 90.
While packin the fruit, the guy said "kuripot".
I was pissed off n tell the guy " u think I don't understand wat u say? I m not buying" in a serious but not agressive manner. He threatened me not to walk past there again, i just ignored him n went across the street n bought 2 mongoes for 50p n went back to hotel.
Wat would u guys do if u r called a kuripot from a fruit seller u r goin to buy from? Think i will avoid all roadside stalls from now but sometimes many of the normal shops r closed at this hour.
Bro, you bargained down to 80p, so that's a good price that he obliged for you. It;s normal for them to softly say kuriput and it's best to let it go. Almost everyday I am branded kuriput by bars n trikes. It's their way of softening the pain of failing to earn more from us.
Live and let live. Let it go. Anyway he will not carry out any threat to you. He too busy trying to find another victim.
Just released my last night girl and another one I KIV from last night now coming. Had to postpone her from last night till now. Later my Manila girl will come at 4pm. Hands full already.
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01-11-2011, 12:37 AM
...must have been insane then, never gonna do that again for sure!
