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Old 22-09-2012, 12:39 PM
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Re: NOT good karma to not pay CP gals.

I totally AGREE,

What I am saying is that the girls here are practical (Let's leave the WL out of the picture that's a PAID service)... I have gone out with NORMAL girls here shop girls, Starbucks girls, tea shop girls...

What I am saying is if they like you they are more than willing to put out... As a non business transaction... I dun know I'll feel weird that after I sleep with a NORMAL girl slip 1500$ into her pocket... that might offend some...

I mean yeah a shopping spree... some gifts... somewhere nice to eat... makes you a girlfriend...

Cold hard cash makes you a Whore...

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NOT saying you or anybody else is wrong, but FOR MYSELF, I would never do a Chang Ping gal and NOT pay them. To me, doing so is just too much like shooting fish in a barrel.

You see, just about all the gals who come to CP go there to sell their body - one way or the other; the sauna/KTV/BBS gals just out and out sell it whilst the DJ's, Mommies/managers, Footsie gals even some of the waitresses etc doing it more subtly/playing the waiting game to pick and chose the best amongst several candidates for the bigger payout (short term pain for longer term gain and bigger payout!).

Then there are us the foreign mongers who has the benefit of superior education, economic standing, worldly experience ec etc - how hard is it to seduce these country bumpkins? How easy is it to put in practice those "Pick-up" techniques we've all had to practice growing up in a more socio-economically advanced countries if we're ever gonna get laid, how easy is it to even just make vague promises/indications that there is monetary rewards at the end - just to seduce them and leave them high and dry?

Nah... to me doing so is just too much injustice and is bad karma, and I would never do so/just totally IMHO and NOT judging anybody else

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Re: NOT good karma to not pay CP gals.

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I totally AGREE,

What I am saying is that the girls here are practical (Let's leave the WL out of the picture that's a PAID service)... I have gone out with NORMAL girls here shop girls, Starbucks girls, tea shop girls...

What I am saying is if they like you they are more than willing to put out... As a non business transaction... I dun know I'll feel weird that after I sleep with a NORMAL girl slip 1500$ into her pocket... that might offend some...

I mean yeah a shopping spree... some gifts... somewhere nice to eat... makes you a girlfriend...

Cold hard cash makes you a Whore...

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can buy gold or platinum or diamond pieces lol
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I totally AGREE,

What I am saying is that the girls here are practical (Let's leave the WL out of the picture that's a PAID service)... I have gone out with NORMAL girls here shop girls, Starbucks girls, tea shop girls...

What I am saying is if they like you they are more than willing to put out... As a non business transaction... I dun know I'll feel weird that after I sleep with a NORMAL girl slip 1500$ into her pocket... that might offend some...

I mean yeah a shopping spree... some gifts... somewhere nice to eat... makes you a girlfriend...

Cold hard cash makes you a Whore...

Z Huang
I have gone out with NORMAL gals too...sales gals, footie mms and even married housewife....none had turn down my cold hard cash....

I do take them shopping for clothes and yet I still reward them with maos...and I never felt they being offended....cold hard cash dun make anyone a whore...
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Re: NOT good karma to not pay CP gals.

Thanks for the insight... maybe it's just me thinking... have to learn from all the big brothers here

I am not looking for FREE service... Just don't want to dis.respect anyone... but ya have ya point...

I got knn once the MM accuse me of treat her like a WL...

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I have gone out with NORMAL gals too...sales gals, footie mms and even married housewife....none had turn down my cold hard cash....

I do take them shopping for clothes and yet I still reward them with maos...and I never felt they being offended....cold hard cash dun make anyone a whore...
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Old 22-09-2012, 02:34 PM
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Re: Events In CP

Hello... People

I just realized this tread called "Events in CP" anyone out there in and around CP want to do something together...

Create an Event?

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Thanks for the insight... maybe it's just me thinking... have to learn from all the big brothers here

I am not looking for FREE service... Just don't want to dis.respect anyone... but ya have ya point...

I got knn once the MM accuse me of treat her like a WL...

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Yes, that is one consideration - especially when NOT in Chang Ping. How I've always handle that is to say to the gal something like "Yes, I really like just about everything about you, except I really hate your underwear; but you know it wouldn't be convenient for me to go underwear shopping with you, so please do me a favor and go yourself to get xxxx type of underwear" whilst handing over cold hard cash.

And I'd like to clarify that my "stance" is with Chang Ping gals specifically (as well as those in other places I know are working gals) as realistically 90% of gals who comes to CP has the sole intention of selling their body - one way/method or another. And to get freebies from them is like stealing candy from a baby....and just about the only "candy" these less than sophisticated gals has is their body.

Anyway, like I said, this is only my own POV/practices and I certainly do not expect that everybody has to follow my own guidelines. Apologies if I possibly opened up a hornet's nest.

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Thanks for the insight... maybe it's just me thinking... have to learn from all the big brothers here

I am not looking for FREE service... Just don't want to dis.respect anyone... but ya have ya point...

I got knn once the MM accuse me of treat her like a WL...

Z
Hahaha...you have ur pt too....

maybe that mm do really have character...or maybe she wants to save face but beri happy inside leh....
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Hahaha...you have ur pt too....

maybe that mm do really have character...or maybe she wants to save face but beri happy inside leh....
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Thanks for the insight... maybe it's just me thinking... have to learn from all the big brothers here

I am not looking for FREE service... Just don't want to dis.respect anyone... but ya have ya point...

I got knn once the MM accuse me of treat her like a WL...

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This is my personal sexperience

Not all gals in CP or CA that are not in KTV or BBS line will except cold hard cash

Most of the time did not ask the cost and do it.

After the physical stress release, got scold by a MM that I treat her as a Whore when I gave her a red packet.

She simply enjoy each other company and happy, happy end up in bed as a one night stand affair.

So is depends on each individual.

I even did the noble task on my China colleauges in other part of China. Is FOC

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Re: Events In CP

I have a very good friend in SG nicest guy in the world... Butt UGLY and as rich as HELL... One day he introduces us to his new girlfriend SUPER MODEL looks... BOOBS that look like ICBMs, BUTT you can rest a beer on...

As a friend i was really concern that she was a GOLD DIGGER... So i took me friend aside and told him...

You do know your GF is only after your money...

His reply was...

That's okay I am only after her body...

The thing is we as guys come here to be taken advantage of in one way or another... We know it and we allow it... like the PZL girl that you buy 6 hours off to go to KTV with you but leaves after 2 hours...

or

the footie girl that gives you some extra service when you add time..(you know the place near the train station)

that's okay because we allow it...

I have no issue for paying for SERVICE... I do it all the time...

I have no issue if the girl I just slept with says that was great honey that be 500$ please! at least I know where we stand...

I do enjoy the chase of the girl that is off the market... where you use skill and charm, to get to know them better, that's all... leaving it OPEN ENDED... Who knows?

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This is my personal sexperience

Not all gals in CP or CA that are not in KTV or BBS line will except cold hard cash

Most of the time did not ask the cost and do it.

After the physical stress release, got scold by a MM that I treat her as a Whore when I gave her a red packet.

She simply enjoy each other company and happy, happy end up in bed as a one night stand affair.

So is depends on each individual.

I even did the noble task on my China colleauges in other part of China. Is FOC

I definitely will not question the FACT that this happens - even with most hard nosed WG's in CP - but such situations are precisely when I will insist on paying the gal for sure!

Hear me out on this - and again with apologies if I offend anybody..

But to me, there's USUALLY only 2 reasons when a gal IN CHANG PING would refuse cash. One is when she REALLY is besotted/in-love with you - in which case, it is IMHO, just too harsh to take advantage of the gal's vulnerabilities (remember, she came to Chang Ping to sell her body - not to give this most precious/probably only candy she has away) and the second - which I suggest bros here WATCH OUT for is their quest for long term gain for short term pain.

DJ's, Mommies, Managers, Footsy gals even waitresses are the top of the predatory food-chain; they are NOT obliged to "do it" (as is the case with KTV, BBS, Sauna etc gals) and would thus take their time...and wiles... to pick and choose the best candidate to secure their long term financial plans. The DJ/mommie etc will have a full room of guys to pick from, the waitresses/shop girls will have their "regulars" come in - and depending if she finds a guys suitable to her needs or not, will then slowly agree to be closer and closer to him.....after much prior investigation and deliberation on her part!

Once you "bag" such a girl (errr.... actually she's the one who bagged you!! LOL!), she will then work her charms/wiles to convince you that you are her Superman Lover!! And charm you into really thinking that it's not money (yeah right!!) that she is after, but your sexual prowess, your charms, your ...whatever!! And how many of us can stop ourselves from succumbing to the lure that one is truly a perfect lover/man? We don't get this AT ALL in real relationships, so when it happens...you're dead meat!!

Remember, you go to Chang Ping to SCREW AROUND - so NEVER think that you're gonna find TRUE love there. And if you THINK you've found true love there - well..... Good Luck bro!

Again just my POV and hope am not causing offense to anyone here.

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Re: NOT good karma to not pay CP gals.

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Hahaha...you have ur pt too....

maybe that mm do really have character...or maybe she wants to save face but beri happy inside leh....
Taikor... The bait u use is cold hard cash while the bait they use is honey coats words and charm..

So of course the outcome the gals give is different mah.. Haha
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I definitely will not question the FACT that this happens - even with most hard nosed WG's in CP - but such situations are precisely when I will insist on paying the gal for sure!

Hear me out on this - and again with apologies if I offend anybody..

But to me, there's USUALLY only 2 reasons when a gal IN CHANG PING would refuse cash. One is when she REALLY is besotted/in-love with you - in which case, it is IMHO, just too harsh to take advantage of the gal's vulnerabilities (remember, she came to Chang Ping to sell her body - not to give this most precious/probably only candy she has away) and the second - which I suggest bros here WATCH OUT for is their quest for long term gain for short term pain.

DJ's, Mommies, Managers, Footsy gals even waitresses are the top of the predatory food-chain; they are NOT obliged to "do it" (as is the case with KTV, BBS, Sauna etc gals) and would thus take their time...and wiles... to pick and choose the best candidate to secure their long term financial plans. The DJ/mommie etc will have a full room of guys to pick from, the waitresses/shop girls will have their "regulars" come in - and depending if she finds a guys suitable to her needs or not, will then slowly agree to be closer and closer to him.....after much prior investigation and deliberation on her part!

Once you "bag" such a girl (errr.... actually she's the one who bagged you!! LOL!), she will then work her charms/wiles to convince you that you are her Superman Lover!! And charm you into really thinking that it's not money (yeah right!!) that she is after, but your sexual prowess, your charms, your ...whatever!! And how many of us can stop ourselves from succumbing to the lure that one is truly a perfect lover/man? We don't get this AT ALL in real relationships, so when it happens...you're dead meat!!

Remember, you go to Chang Ping to SCREW AROUND - so NEVER think that you're gonna find TRUE love there. And if you THINK you've found true love there - well..... Good Luck bro!

Again just my POV and hope am not causing offense to anyone here.

SEAN
Bro,

It depends on individual as I said before.
Have know some of the gals for 2yrs to 3 yrs already.
That is why most of the time I go to CP and CA alone.
Just to pay them a visit but I did buy some perfume for those who did not accept the "MAO"

I am still quite new to the "cheong" world but I am lucky enough since 2007 till now.
My personal believe is the minset in us that any girls working in CP is there to sell their body which I personally do not support
All PRC in Geylang are WL ? Which is not the fact

To summarise is everyone have different thumbprint so everyone think differently.
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I even did the noble task on my China colleauges in other part of China. Is FOC

And oh - forgot to mention about this.

Screwing work colleagues is one thing which is very dangerous/explosive in China and you'd better watch out for this.

We more Western minded guys are sometimes a bit naive and innocent as to the harsh realities of life in China - especially for the Fairer sex in Chinese society. IMHO, the Chinese gal is way more superior to their male counterparts in terms of intelligence, perseverance, manners, initiative - just about in everything...but the sad fact of the matter is that Chinese gals still remain way under-privileged and totally exploited not only by their males, but more importantly by just how the system works in China. Sad but true.

This being so, too many a Chinese gal who realizes such KNOWS that the easiest/best way to get ahead is to just bed a colleague or better still, a boss. This happens every day in Chinese society and is quite well accepted by both males and females. But in the case of us NON-locals, we really don't know how to play the game properly/judiciously.

Whilst a Chinese boss will just go ahead and promote/give a raise to gals he'd bedded, (or, as hard-nosed as some Chinese are - Fire her ass instead, if she gives ANY problems) us non-locals are saddled with Home office rules, our own bosses - and worse, our own more strict code of conduct/morality which will proscribe us from doing what a Local Chinese would do.

I've had MANY friends who fell foul of such complications resulting from work romances; from a guy who actually got fired when such was discovered, to those who was practically paying black-mail rates of compensation to his gal, to being harassed non-stop and paying through his nose, to one who totally screwed up his marriage/family and even to being actually physically beaten up. Office romances are a bad idea anywhere - but doubly...no, more than doubly - bad in China.

You're away from home - don't take chances and just PAY to get your jollies off. Just a Li'l heads up

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And oh - forgot to mention about this.

Screwing work colleagues is one thing which is very dangerous/explosive in China and you'd better watch out for this.

We more Western minded guys are sometimes a bit naive and innocent as to the harsh realities of life in China - especially for the Fairer sex in Chinese society. IMHO, the Chinese gal is way more superior to their male counterparts in terms of intelligence, perseverance, manners, initiative - just about in everything...but the sad fact of the matter is that Chinese gals still remain way under-privileged and totally exploited not only by their males, but more importantly by just how the system works in China. Sad but true.

This being so, too many a Chinese gal who realizes such KNOWS that the easiest/best way to get ahead is to just bed a colleague or better still, a boss. This happens every day in Chinese society and is quite well accepted by both males and females. But in the case of us NON-locals, we really don't know how to play the game properly/judiciously.

Whilst a Chinese boss will just go ahead and promote/give a raise to gals he'd bedded, (or, as hard-nosed as some Chinese are - Fire her ass instead, if she gives ANY problems) us non-locals are saddled with Home office rules, our own bosses - and worse, our own more strict code of conduct/morality which will proscribe us from doing what a Local Chinese would do.

I've had MANY friends who fell foul of such complications resulting from work romances; from a guy who actually got fired when such was discovered, to those who was practically paying black-mail rates of compensation to his gal, to being harassed non-stop and paying through his nose, to one who totally screwed up his marriage/family and even to being actually physically beaten up. Office romances are a bad idea anywhere - but doubly...no, more than doubly - bad in China.

You're away from home - don't take chances and just PAY to get your jollies off. Just a Li'l heads up

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Bro,

Thanks for the advise.

I am a Singaporean. Gogo to another part of China for a project. The female colleague is single. We are both from different department.
In terms of position, she is on the higher side.

Is just a one night stand affair

You have many friends who got pinch. I am the fewer guys that are lucky

In fact I find the Chinese girls more open minded compare to Singapore girls

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