I Yearn To Return To Vietnam

[japboy]

nice one bro blue_swatch and haha_123, seems like all r in d same frequency abt dis...

well, i've told u viet gals r gd at playing games... conflicting stories and contradicting facts..

i wouldnt b bothered abt all dis and i'm sure u can get loads more in HCMC.. jz keep ur eyes open n u shld get more... no pt drinking milk frm a calf dat u picked up all d time... can go ard stealing pples' cows....

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by japboy

no pt drinking milk frm a calf dat u picked up all d time... can go ard stealing pples' cows....

No need to steal....leave your door open and the cows will walk into the farm themselves....

[blue_swatch]

Just tell the girls u r from Singapore and see them flock to you like bees to honey

I wish you well my friend.

[Tomahawk]

Thanks brothers... No need to worry about me. I'm not going to give up my family for those SYTs anytime soon! Like you said, it's just bonks that I'm looking for, although I have to admit the experience of having girls chase you is nice. I don't normally get to experience anything like that... Of course, the fact that the subject matter now is a pretty, fair 18-year-old makes it more compelling.

Hope you don't mind, but I'm confused about the hotel thing. So, officially girls are not allowed to stay with foreigners in the same room after 9pm, but this is rarely enforced in the lower-grade hotels. But why does haha_123 say that asking the girl to produce her IC would ensure no one disturbs us? Does a girl's IC at the Front Desk ensure that the police won't raid our room? I don't quite get it...

In any case, I'll be heading for Saigon again next month. My girl has promised to take a couple of days' leave to keep me company, so I'm planning to have her bunk in with me. So when I check in to the hotel, do I tell them I want a single room or a double room, and do I need her IC? Will they allow us to check in together? Remember I'm not bringing her to a room after 12am for a short stay, but rather I'm checking both of us in as guests for 2 nights upon arrival (my flight lands in the mid-afternoon). How does this work?

[rapebill]

The way that you had narrated your story (that you cried and things like that) suggests that you wants Lan to be your girlfriend (mistress) and not just a fuck buddy? I am sure this will somehow strain your relationship with your OC. Personally, I find it very difficult to have feelings for more than 1 gal.

This sort of mess had happened to me and I am still cleaning the shit now. Very shitty stuff that I wished I had not gotten into in the first place.
As some bros had advised, you have to be careful and perhaps take it easy on this new relationship.

[faszcom]

Originally Posted by Tomahawk

Hope you don't mind, but I'm confused about the hotel thing. So, officially girls are not allowed to stay with foreigners in the same room after 9pm, but this is rarely enforced in the lower-grade hotels. But why does haha_123 say that asking the girl to produce her IC would ensure no one disturbs us? Does a girl's IC at the Front Desk ensure that the police won't raid our room? I don't quite get it...

Some say yes, some say no...Like what Bro Reaper said, all hotel in HCM is non gal-friendly, which it should be true.
Just that i'm lucky enough to get a hotel which it "gal-friendly", hence i thought all those budget private own hotel is gal-friendly. Btw, even i go to Vung Tao, my gal allow to stay with me without booking additional room, but that a motel.
Anyway you may try New Asia hotel in district 3, the recpt speak Chinese and lot of Taiwanese stay there.

Btw, i guess we should stop discussing if it legal to let gal stay overnight in vn hotel in this thread as that suppose to be in other section.

[haha_123]

Originally Posted by Tomahawk

Hope you don't mind, but I'm confused about the hotel thing. So, officially girls are not allowed to stay with foreigners in the same room after 9pm, but this is rarely enforced in the lower-grade hotels. But why does haha_123 say that asking the girl to produce her IC would ensure no one disturbs us? Does a girl's IC at the Front Desk ensure that the police won't raid our room? I don't quite get it...

In any case, I'll be heading for Saigon again next month. My girl has promised to take a couple of days' leave to keep me company, so I'm planning to have her bunk in with me. So when I check in to the hotel, do I tell them I want a single room or a double room, and do I need her IC? Will they allow us to check in together? Remember I'm not bringing her to a room after 12am for a short stay, but rather I'm checking both of us in as guests for 2 nights upon arrival (my flight lands in the mid-afternoon). How does this work?

Vietnam is still a communist country after all. So officially foreigners are not allowed to bring in Vietnamese girls if they are not married. This applys to all 4 and 5-star hotels, and all 3-star hotels registered with Saigon-Tourist, including Kimdo, Bon Seng, Palace and Oscar Hotels.

But for less fanciful 3-star hotels such as Sunflower and Lan Lan Hotel(along Bui Thi Xuan St), Spring Hotel(along Le Thanh Ton St) and Lan Lan2 Hotel(along Thu Khoa Huan St), this rule is not applied strictly. You can register at the Front Desk with your passport, together with the girl's ID. You can ask for a double-bed, and they'll even give you breakfast coupon for two. In these hotels, I've seen ang-mohs checking-in with 2 Vietnamese syts around his arm, and nobody bat an eye-lid. Nobody will call your room and ask your girl to leave by 11pm.

By the way, you should check-into Lan Lan Hotel or Lan Lan2 Hotel because your girl's name is Lan.

[High till Dry]

Never went back for almost 3 years.

Wondering when will I have the privilege to revisit the country?

[Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by rapebill

The way that you had narrated your story (that you cried and things like that) suggests that you wants Lan to be your girlfriend (mistress) and not just a fuck buddy? I am sure this will somehow strain your relationship with your OC. Personally, I find it very difficult to have feelings for more than 1 gal.

I'm not sure how to explain this too. I do like Lan, but I also do know that it's not possible for us to be together. It's like saying that I want us to be together but only for as long as we can maintain this relationship. So, this is a BGR, and it's an LDR, but I can already foresee that it won't last forever. While Lan wants us to be together eventually (and move to Singapore) I can already foresee that we'll break up eventually.

A few weeks back, we had an emotional chat on the phone, during which she asked if I was married. Of course, I did the "right" thing, in order not to lose her and to secure the heart of this xiao meimei. So, even till today, I'm lying to her. I don't know how else to maintain a non-BGR and no-strings-attached relationship with her. I don't have to resort to this with Tingting (Shenzhen) and the other girl (Bangkok) coz they were massage girls to begin with; They know we can't be together and Tingting does know I'm married. I guess the backgrounds of these girls are different. Tell me, given that I picked Lan up in a disco, how would I be able to continue a relationship with her, and be able to bonk her whenever I go to Saigon, without giving her the false impression that I'm single? I'm not sure if there'll be an answer.

[Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by faszcom

Some say yes, some say no...Like what Bro Reaper said, all hotel in HCM is non gal-friendly, which it should be true.
Just that i'm lucky enough to get a hotel which it "gal-friendly", hence i thought all those budget private own hotel is gal-friendly. Btw, even i go to Vung Tao, my gal allow to stay with me without booking additional room, but that a motel.
Anyway you may try New Asia hotel in district 3, the recpt speak Chinese and lot of Taiwanese stay there.

Brother faszcom, can you let me know which hotel this is? The first one you're referring to. I'm looking to getting a hotel in District 1, in the Pham Ngu Lao Ward, coz it's near everywhere. I'm also more familiar with that area, having been to Bar Stop, Lan's place and the Ben Thanh Market.

[Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by haha_123

But for less fanciful 3-star hotels such as Sunflower and Lan Lan Hotel(along Bui Thi Xuan St), Spring Hotel(along Le Thanh Ton St) and Lan Lan2 Hotel(along Thu Khoa Huan St), this rule is not applied strictly.

You sure about Spring Hotel? I know from my own experience that this is not the case. Spring Hotel does bar unmarried Vietnamese girls from entry. Or maybe I happened to meet an over-zealous Front Desk staff then.

Originally Posted by haha_123

You can register at the Front Desk with your passport, together with the girl's ID. You can ask for a double-bed, and they'll even give you breakfast coupon for two. In these hotels, I've seen ang-mohs checking-in with 2 Vietnamese syts around his arm, and nobody bat an eye-lid. Nobody will call your room and ask your girl to leave by 11pm.

OK this is confusing. So upon "proper" check in, if I'm staying for a few days, and I'm bringing a girl along, I need my passport AND her ID. However, if I'm just there for transit (a few hours) late at night, they only need the girl's ID, as per my experience with Lan at the unnamed hotel?

Let me ask something. So once the hotel accepts the girl's ID, the police won't come right? If the police are coming, the hotel will have known about in advance and they wouldn't have accepted us? Am I interpreting it correctly?

Originally Posted by haha_123

By the way, you should check-into Lan Lan Hotel or Lan Lan2 Hotel because your girl's name is Lan.

Lan is a fictitious name I created for this girl. But I could consider these hotels. How about others like An An and Duna, and others listed here:

Accomodation in Phan Ngu Lao
Cheap Budget Hotels

... and of course there are many similar directories.

How do I know which are the girl-friendly hotels (technically, the hotels which do allow me to bring in girls) and which are not?

By the way, this Caucasian wrote about The Giant Dragon and Duna.

[burzum]

bro Tomahawk, i read your narration about your close encounter of the SYT kind, and personally i was very emotional upon finishing reading it.

in life, a lot of stuff that happens are not within our human ways of control. i believe that it's fate that brought you and Lan together, and i really hope destiny holds the two of you together, for a period of time.

i had an similiar experience too and till this day i have hoped that i can have a chance to talk to her again.

sincerely, i wish you good luck in your future endeavours with her. last but not least, i hope you will be contented and happy.

[haha_123]

Hi Bro Tomahawk, other gal-friendly hotels include Tan My Dinh(along Le Thanh Ton St), Tan Hoang Ngoc(along Thu Khoa Huan St) and Elios Hotel(along Pham Ngu Lao St). Personally I won't try Duna Hotel as it looks rather old and dirty when I'm standing outside the hotel.

At the gal-friendly hotels, you will need to register at the Front Desk with your passport and your gal's ID. So far I have never heard about any raids carried out by the police to check if there are unmarried couple staying together in the hotel room. I guess they have other better things to do. Anyway, each hotel has it's own security guard or doorman at the entrance. So if you made it pass the doorman and security guard, and register at the Front Desk without any hassle, then you are free to do what you want inside the room with your gal.

Sorry but I have not stayed in any transit hotels(something like Hotel 81) in Vietnam. I don't even know that such hotels exist in Ho Chi Minh city.

[Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by haha_123

At the gal-friendly hotels, you will need to register at the Front Desk with your passport and your gal's ID. So far I have never heard about any raids carried out by the police to check if there are unmarried couple staying together in the hotel room. I guess they have other better things to do.

Thanks for that haha_123. I wonder why I wasn't asked for my passport (or at least my ID) when Lan brought me to that unnamed hotel after our trysts at Apocalypse Now and Bar Stop. This girl simply produced her IC, I paid 300,000 Dong, and we were led upstairs. I don't get it... Maybe she told the owner that she was there only for a short stay and they closed one eye.

Originally Posted by haha_123

Sorry but I have not stayed in any transit hotels(something like Hotel 81) in Vietnam. I don't even know that such hotels exist in Ho Chi Minh city.

I'm not sure if such hotels exist too. I was just generalising when I asked about short stays.

[Tomahawk]

Thanks burzum for your comments. I hope you'll be able to speak to your girl again.

Just an update here. I'll be travelling to Saigon again next weekend. I'm feeling damn guilty now. In the past, I had only gone to HCs and flirted with girls on chatlines, etc. Even when I went overseas, the furthest I would go would be to extend my official stay by one night so that I would be able to go "partying". The last thing I wanted do would be to scoot off on my personal holiday, leaving the Queen and the kid at home, and not forgetting troubling the parents and PIL to come over to help look after the kid in the meantime.

This time round, I've actually creating a fictitious work trip, along with a fictitious, mysterious project that I've to work on. To make myself not feel so bad, I do have a conference that week to attend in Beijing, but I'm skipping the first two days just so that I can be in Saigon. Luckily that the subject matters to be covered then aren't so relevant to my area of work, so ...

Anyhow, Lan is very excited about my upcoming trip. She misses me a lot and can't wait to see me. The other night, she sent me an SMS while she was at work (which seldom happens as she's a frontline staff in a restaurant), "When you coming Saigon? Let me know. Need to boot a room." I wasn't sure if she meant that she was going to get a room on my behalf. Then, over the past few days, we were chatting her about which hotels were girl-friendly and which were not, etc, and I felt consoled that this girl who knew local conditions (and who could communicate with the hotel owners) would be doing it. Yesterday she informed me that she would be bringing me to this particular hotel in the Pham Ngu Lao area. She said it had nice, big rooms, etc.

She also promised to bring me to her restaurant. In the past, she only said would let me try the food there. Yesterday she actually promised to do the cooking just for me. (For those who're curious, while she's a waitress, she does help out in the kitchen when things get busy occassionally)

By the way, Lan's mum is in town now. To show my sincerity towards Lan, I have asked to speak with her, if only just to say Hello and How are you. If all goes well, I will be speaking with her in a matter of hours.