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[victorlee123]

[QUOTE=Nato17;9432390]You are correct to say that the wages in China has doubled. But, I would not say in the last 5 years but rather the last 3-4 years.

I concur that GL one shot has not risen at all since eons. But FLs pricing here at Sammyboy has risen a lot, no thanks to the OKTs here at SBF. (Some of the PRC FLs are commanding $160 per shot and it is a hit and miss affair). Anyway, in my opinion, sooner or later, the legal scene at GL will raise its pricing. If to match inflation, then the cost per shot will be $300 or thereabouts since 2009.

If pricing does double, I am sure a lot of the brothers here will then take less trips to Geylang. I know, a lot of people will bitch about it.

But at the same time if the pricing does climb to 300 per shot, then the gals attracted here will be a better quality and the chances that they will stay longer would be better, simply because it would be harder to bao a gal who makes $150 x 12 shots - $1800 per day.

Just a quick side track about ERP and petrol prices.....a BMW and Merc average about 7 KM or thereabouts to a 1 Litre of petrol. Right now, the price of petrol is close to $2. So basically, in order for me to save $1, I need to find a way to travel less than 3.5km in order to save money. If the distance is more than 3.5km, then I would be better off going into the ERP and paying that $1 and saving myself time. So in a nut shell, when price of petrol moves up, ERP will also move up sooner or later. Nato17's law of ERP.

Anyway, to be honest, I think that it is a matter of time, the pricing at GL increases. And if I were to select which businesses would improve with that, I would say the OKTs would be the first to rolll in the dough. The gals will roll in the dough, but the people who will feel it would be us cheongsters.

Any thoughts, suggestions, threats or gestures?

Hi bros, the costs of living in Singapore, China and Thailand have gone up considerably in the last 5 years. I will give my personal experience in Singapore, Thailand and China.

I recently went to the high end massage parlours in Pattaya and Bangkok. The charges of top lady masseurs, so called models were 6,000Bahts(S$245). The quality is significantly better than most of our S$150 WLs. There are of course cheaper parlours in smaller Thai cities charging customers 1,000Bahts or less.

In the first tier Chinese cities, the cost of one full session at a good Sauna Centre or Bath centre could be 2,000RMB(S$415) or more and the quality of their gals is again much better than our GL WLs. If we go to Dongguan, we could get better value services. Gals enter the flesh trade at a tender age of 17 or 18. By time they are 22, they are considered old and the demand diminishes. These mature ladies move to smaller parlours or smalller cities. By time, they are 25 or order, further downgrading happens. Some of them come to Singapore to service our bros.

Better educated and pretty Chinese gals join exclusive clubs or high end KTVs as hostessess. Their income could be many times higher than those working in Sauna Centres. They could earn a lot at home country. Perhaps, it could explain we seldom get good qulity WLs to come to Singapore. Broadly speaking, the quality of the first generation PRC gals are better than the third or fourth generation sisters.

We are back to the basic issue of supply and demand of PRC gals. Better quality gals will be lured to Singapore if they could earn more here than at home. Another complaint of PRC WLs is that they have to longer hours and serve more customers. Some bros may not like to pay more than the present price. It is an open issue for OKT, bros and AV to decide. As a small timer, I could only put my humble 2 cent view.

[clinton]

[QUOTE=victorlee123;9434159]

Originally Posted by Nato17

You are correct to say that the wages in China has doubled. But, I would not say in the last 5 years but rather the last 3-4 years.

bro, return favor, cheers

[King]

victor said it all, a great post!

[BronzeGod]

Originally Posted by victorlee123

Hi bros, the costs of living in Singapore, China and Thailand have gone up considerably in the last 5 years. I will give my personal experience in Singapore, Thailand and China.

I recently went to the high end massage parlours in Pattaya and Bangkok. The charges of top lady masseurs, so called models were 6,000Bahts(S$245). The quality is significantly better than most of our S$150 WLs. There are of course cheaper parlours in smaller Thai cities charging customers 1,000Bahts or less.

In the first tier Chinese cities, the cost of one full session at a good Sauna Centre or Bath centre could be 2,000RMB(S$415) or more and the quality of their gals is again much better than our GL WLs. If we go to Dongguan, we could get better value services. Gals enter the flesh trade at a tender age of 17 or 18. By time they are 22, they are considered old and the demand diminishes. These mature ladies move to smaller parlours or smalller cities. By time, they are 25 or order, further downgrading happens. Some of them come to Singapore to service our bros.

Better educated and pretty Chinese gals join exclusive clubs or high end KTVs as hostessess. Their income could be many times higher than those working in Sauna Centres. They could earn a lot at home country. Perhaps, it could explain we seldom get good qulity WLs to come to Singapore. Broadly speaking, the quality of the first generation PRC gals are better than the third or fourth generation sisters.

We are back to the basic issue of supply and demand of PRC gals. Better quality gals will be lured to Singapore if they could earn more here than at home. Another complaint of PRC WLs is that they have to longer hours and serve more customers. Some bros may not like to pay more than the present price. It is an open issue for OKT, bros and AV to decide. As a small timer, I could only put my humble 2 cent view.

A very insightful post.

[Nato17]

Originally Posted by victorlee123

Hi bros, the costs of living in Singapore, China and Thailand have gone up considerably in the last 5 years. I will give my personal experience in Singapore, Thailand and China.

I recently went to the high end massage parlours in Pattaya and Bangkok. The charges of top lady masseurs, so called models were 6,000Bahts(S$245). The quality is significantly better than most of our S$150 WLs. There are of course cheaper parlours in smaller Thai cities charging customers 1,000Bahts or less.

In the first tier Chinese cities, the cost of one full session at a good Sauna Centre or Bath centre could be 2,000RMB(S$415) or more and the quality of their gals is again much better than our GL WLs. If we go to Dongguan, we could get better value services. Gals enter the flesh trade at a tender age of 17 or 18. By time they are 22, they are considered old and the demand diminishes. These mature ladies move to smaller parlours or smalller cities. By time, they are 25 or order, further downgrading happens. Some of them come to Singapore to service our bros.

Better educated and pretty Chinese gals join exclusive clubs or high end KTVs as hostessess. Their income could be many times higher than those working in Sauna Centres. They could earn a lot at home country. Perhaps, it could explain we seldom get good qulity WLs to come to Singapore. Broadly speaking, the quality of the first generation PRC gals are better than the third or fourth generation sisters.

We are back to the basic issue of supply and demand of PRC gals. Better quality gals will be lured to Singapore if they could earn more here than at home. Another complaint of PRC WLs is that they have to longer hours and serve more customers. Some bros may not like to pay more than the present price. It is an open issue for OKT, bros and AV to decide. As a small timer, I could only put my humble 2 cent view.

It is a matter of time that GL will raise its prices. When is the question really and by how much. The rationale I put forth would be that inflation has hit home pretty hard in SG. The only rationale that I would say why it would not go up is that the AV wants to keep the prices down so that the brothers have a place to release their stress and anger towards the government and ultimately keep the FLs in check. But if FL's prices keep moving up in tandem with inflation, it will sooner or later force the pricing of GL to move up.

SG's main attraction for WLs is our money is strong versus let's say Malaysia or Thailand. Security and language is another factor in play. But, that is insufficient for the top WLs to come to SG. Anyway, I am beginning to talk like a gamer asking for lets say the world championships of WLs to come to Singapore for example.

[omnia]

2033 kenna suspended for 2 weeks by AV...

[BronzeGod]

Originally Posted by omnia

2033 kenna suspended for 2 weeks by AV...

wow. what happened?

[geylangfc]

Originally Posted by omnia

2033 kenna suspended for 2 weeks by AV...

Originally Posted by BronzeGod

wow. what happened?

Suspended 2 weeks coz of unlicensed worker. (Not driver)

[kiamcai]

I heard today that Nana from 1803 canceled her card.
Is this true?
Hope this is not true cause it will be one option less when visiting GL.

[Allanooi]

Originally Posted by kiamcai

I heard today that Nana from 1803 canceled her card.
Is this true?
Hope this is not true cause it will be one option less when visiting GL.

Not sure wor if nana canceled card if u heard that nana canceled card today then sounds ??? Becos av only allow cancellation of card every Wednesday today is Friday ....

[googlibong220]

Nope, nana 1803 still around, saw her resting yesterday, she's prob going bk end of the yr with cong cong tho

[Nato17]

Originally Posted by Allanooi

Not sure wor if nana canceled card if u heard that nana canceled card today then sounds ??? Becos av only allow cancellation of card every Wednesday today is Friday ....

Wah brother. Don't like that say AV lei. They work only once a week on Wednesday only. I on the other hand have to work 7 days a week lei.

[kiamcai]

I wanted to call Nana today but the OKT said she had canceled her card on Wednesday.
So I guess the OKT gave me the wrong info.
Good to know that she is still around.

Thanks for clarification

[Nato17]

Originally Posted by kiamcai

I wanted to call Nana today but the OKT said she had canceled her card on Wednesday.
So I guess the OKT gave me the wrong info.
Good to know that she is still around.

Thanks for clarification

Being around does not mean she can take customers lei.

[nakamitchi]

Originally Posted by kiamcai

I wanted to call Nana today but the OKT said she had canceled her card on Wednesday.
So I guess the OKT gave me the wrong info.
Good to know that she is still around.

Thanks for clarification

Today she just start work,yesterday still period....u so zhun ya bro first day u call .......u test water she working is it....just walk in the shop n ask....no need test water in the forum.....u should have her 2 mobile number or wechat so contact her first.....she might be ding dong ding dong abit but she will reply u unless she dont want to be disturb....