What is wrong with viet ktv nowadays????

[Theclay82]

Hi guys,

for those who frequent viet ktvs for many years, do u find that the quality
after covid did not improve and also the number of girls are dropping,
heard that most of them do not like to come sg ktv to work anymore
due to high cost to pay the ktv boss every month and also tips are not as high as
around the region, not sure if this is true, iam starting to get bored
of going viet ktv due to lack of quality and high expenses, what do
u guys think????

[obeyyodude]

Originally Posted by Theclay82

Hi guys,

for those who frequent viet ktvs for many years, do u find that the quality
after covid did not improve and also the number of girls are dropping,
heard that most of them do not like to come sg ktv to work anymore
due to high cost to pay the ktv boss every month and also tips are not as high as
around the region, not sure if this is true, iam starting to get bored
of going viet ktv due to lack of quality and high expenses, what do
u guys think????

Hmm not sure exactly about Viet KTV, but I know the Thai pub/diu and fl scene has this issue too which should be similar. Girls always tell me sg tips/flowers are more but need to pay a lot. Pay for WP, plus pay for food and some bosses make them pay extra rental. If they have many bros supporting them can earn a lot, but normal can be quite tough.

Some girls use sg as an in between before going to other countries work "on holiday", as japan, Taiwan, HK, and some msia places they don't need to pay anything. So they will go on Asia tour before going back home to relax.

Also now many can earn big bucks just working in bkk because of the flood of prc money.

[thatpoorguy]

Originally Posted by Theclay82

Hi guys,

for those who frequent viet ktvs for many years, do u find that the quality
after covid did not improve and also the number of girls are dropping,
heard that most of them do not like to come sg ktv to work anymore
due to high cost to pay the ktv boss every month and also tips are not as high as
around the region, not sure if this is true, iam starting to get bored
of going viet ktv due to lack of quality and high expenses, what do
u guys think????

This is true. Quality is bad for Viet hostess. Other scene such as ML and FLs are having the same issues.

From my conversations and primary 6 education comprehension skills, the reason could be as such.
1. Another bro mentioned, the cost in SG is higher. The middle man is charging and earning a bigger cut compared to the past in the name of inflation. As a result, the girls are more urgent in earning back the sunk cost. They usually do so by marking up the price of their services which clearly, most bros will not buy it unless you are Fan Bing Bing quality.
2. High Charges Low business transaction. Giving they have lower successful transactions, they make lesser compared to the past where lower fees, more transaction. Some even leave SG making a loss. They then start sharing the horror stories of how SG is not profitable in their own circle and new syt, gems that might have come to SG then decides not to.
3. Fairy Tail dream smashed. We all wish to work minimal effort, earn 1m. The girls as well. They have been sold this dream by middleman that singkie are Robert. Minimal effort and they will be showered with money. Once again, expectations and reality does not match. After realizing the reality, they start to whine and complain being cheated, once again to their circle of sister in their home country.

I have visited JB KL BKK ChiangMai HK GZ SH Beijing HZ etc recently due to work. The quality is just as high at pre covid prices. The only way to correct this is for the middle man to stop charging so much but this would almost be impossible as everyone wants to make more money.

[loneyheart]

High cost of living especially rental cost kill most of the business in SG

[power8003]

I do not think so...If you have go KTV before covid, the tips is only $50 and ST only 200 to 250. Nowadays it is $100 and ST $400 up. which is more than double. Do not hear what the girls said. They re earning more. It getting more expensive so less ppl go. For siam diu, before covid flower start with $50 and now $100 and alcohol prices also have increase alot. So lesser ppl go....

[DannyW]

Originally Posted by thatpoorguy

This is true. Quality is bad for Viet hostess. Other scene such as ML and FLs are having the same issues.

From my conversations and primary 6 education comprehension skills, the reason could be as such.
1. Another bro mentioned, the cost in SG is higher. The middle man is charging and earning a bigger cut compared to the past in the name of inflation. As a result, the girls are more urgent in earning back the sunk cost. They usually do so by marking up the price of their services which clearly, most bros will not buy it unless you are Fan Bing Bing quality

Totally agreed.

This is what I see personally, happy to hear other view.

10 15 years ago all the viet girls come here on 30 days tourist visa, they were free to try out the scene and accepted tips as minimal as 20$. I met quite some carefree girl and had fun outside the ktv, brought them out for dinner and sightseeing.

Fast forward, the gov introduced 6 month pass for ktv girls, and all the middleman (mostly seasoned mami) started charging crazy agent fees ranging from 5k - 10k to do the pass for she girl. In addition they also passed monthly levy and other cost to the girls, each ended up to pay 1k - 2k every month.

The girl mindset changed completely. They are owning money the moment they reach SG shore, and all they care is how to run as many tables as possibles every day. Hence Tips fees increased, 20$ , 50$, 100$ over time,

Economy is getting better in HCMC also. Girls can earn as much as 2 million dong (100$) in some ktv session, and they don’t have to be as playful as what we expect.

I think that’s how we are left with the current state of KTV scene here in sg.

[KangTuo]

Originally Posted by DannyW

Totally agreed.

This is what I see personally, happy to hear other view.

Last time 15 to 20 years ago more fun because go pub in JC or GL can see many vb hopping from pub to pub then hopping from pub to no mummy ktv.
hooking up, KC game and bringing them out for fun is so easy. Tips and ST is definitely cheaper.

Now I meet up with bros once or twice a year to viet ktv. I see no drop in quality and playability. In some KTV, the vb still sit on lap, unzip your pants to hj in room but will never let you cum. (last time Echo and Leo famous to Sleazy act in room). Tips and price for dabao definitely increase but it seems to stabilized to a lower rate than covid time. Spass or WP holder become a norm for vb working in ktv these days.
Now that I only cheong once or twice a year, I don't mind the current rate of the tips. Anyway I don't dabao now.

Probably of my proficiency in tieng viet, I find it still quite fun in communicating and impressing the vb and the vb is more comfortable speaking with me.